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moneyg
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Trump said he wouldn't blame the Democrats for the shutdown. Why do you disagree with your dear leader?



We all know what's going on. You are trying to characterize it to shape your view.

Trump requested funding for wall. Pelosi and Schumer said no. Trump told them this was non negotiable. Schumer tried to pin a shutdown on Trump and Trump basically said, "that's fine, I'll take the blame because this is so important."

None of that matters. Trump is requesting a very, very reasonable amount of money for this year. Democrats are refusing to give it to him. Those are the facts. And, reasonable people evaluate situations based on facts. Democrats are playing hardball and hurting people for political reasons.


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moneyg
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Trump is on video saying he won't blame the democrats for the shutdown. You can make believe the video doesn't exist but it does.



Who cares? The Democrats are to blame. You think Trump saying he won't blame them changes that?


tigerinDC09
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Who cares? The Democrats are to blame. You think Trump saying he won't blame them changes that?


You admitting that he is a known liar is really an awesome self own.


Gaston
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
We have an account that our bills come out of, and it’s got enough in it to cover us for a while. We’re both working, but I think I only have 3/5 work days with funding. Like most jobs though, I can pick up other work if I poke my neck into the right spots.

The Dems aren’t caving...their whole point is to stop Trump from being effective, this shite is exactly what they want.


tigerinDC09
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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The Dems aren’t caving...their whole point is to stop Trump from being effective, this shite is exactly what they want.


So do you think Trump should have taken that $25b in exchange for DACA back when the dems offered it?


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moneyg
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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You admitting that he is a known liar is really an awesome self own.



It's not important.

What's important is that the democrats are playing politics at the expense of a lot of people. And, they are choosing to do it on a subject that is important, and to deny a very reasonable Trump request.

People see that his request is important. People see that his request is reasonable. People see that democrats are playing politics.


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Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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It’s not popular because it’s kinda stupid.


I agree.

Eliminate their positions. Period.
If the only people who can tell they are not at "work" are those people, and the only way they can tell is because they aren't getting a check, maybe their positions are not needed.
To maintain those positions seems kind of stupid.
Don't you agree? If not, why not?


Dale51
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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I don't really care how you take my view.


The guys got a real SJW smell comin' off him.


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Dale51
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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I’m “esdential” as you put it, and I downvoted.

What is your job?


Gaston
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
You want to eliminate NASA?


LSURussian
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Suddenly being w/o a paycheck would be unsettling for most folks. People at the TSA level aren't drawing big money in the first place. Should they live paycheck-to-paycheck? Of course not.
I don't understand the angst by the government workers not getting paid on their normal pay schedule.

It's already been announced they will receive full back pay once congress finally passes the budget.

So, just live off a credit card if they don't have savings in the bank to use.

When they receive their back pay they can use it to pay their temporary credit card borrowings or replenish their savings account.

They should consider this time off as an additional paid vacation this year. I'd be grateful rather than protesting.....



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Dale51
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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You want to eliminate NASA?



NASA is not "shut down". That said, what important daily function do they provide? Did they turn off all the satellites and sensors?


Gaston
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Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
What do you mean? The site I usually work at sure the hell is. Im at one of their production facilities now and it’s a skeleton crew, I haven’t seen any GOV employees. My boss and I are splitting 50 hrs/wk. everyone not here, and not GOV are on LWOP...without pay. It is what it is.


Dale51
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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What do you mean? The site I usually work at sure the hell is. Im at one of their production facilities now and it’s a skeleton crew,



What do I mean? You answered the question.

If there is a functioning "skeleton crew"....they are not "shut down" Don't you agree?


bmy
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Nashville
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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And unpaid workers, remember to always worship Trump, even if you and your children incur huge late fees in all of your bills, or lose your home, or default on your obligations because Trump is who you should love, always, regardless of reality.


I'd be deducting those fees from my taxes


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bmy
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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If there is a functioning "skeleton crew"....they are not "shut down" Don't you agree?


Classic..

Im at one of their production facilities now and it’s a skeleton crew, I haven’t seen any GOV employees


notslim99
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Member since Feb 2005
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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What is your job?


Air traffic controller for the FAA. Not a lot in the private sector for me, although the shutdown is a big argument in favor of privatization.


Gaston
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Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
This facility is a NASA building, but everyone here is working projects that receive funding from a different source, most are not GOV, they’ve just contracted to use the space. All GOV projects, that need oversight are shut down.

Can’t even get into my normal site, it is shut down.


Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Does Congress get paid during a shutdown? They shouldn't.


Let's take it a step further. For every day that the government is shut down, congress should lose one months pay. Maybe these frickers would then actually do their damn jobs they were elected to/for, and have the budget ready and approved before the deadline each year.


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Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Government employees who will not get paid today
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Classic..

Im at one of their production facilities now and it’s a skeleton crew, I haven’t seen any GOV employees


You're making my point.
If it's functioning with no GOV employees....maybe they're not needed?
Again...you're conflating eliminating nonessential employees with eliminating whole departments...i.,e. "You want to eliminate NASA?"


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