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re: GOP Tax Bill Votes - In Game Thread - Senate Passes 51 - 49

Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:06 am to
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15005 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:06 am to
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I think they are trying to get in done by the end of the year so this year's taxes will be cut


Had my best year yet in 2017...I'll drink to that!!! So much winning!!!
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23904 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:14 am to
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Does anyone know the big differences between the house and Senate bills?


I'm not sure what changes were made tonight but here are a few off the top of my drunk head:

SALT deductions
7 tax brackets vs 4
Repeal of Obamacare mandate
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:35 am to
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Repeal of Obamacare mandate
m

Wasn’t this in both? Shouldn’t be an issue if so...
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40853 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:37 am to
I'll add on

The house bill allowed for up to $10,000 in property tax deductions and no state income tax deductions

It also capped the mortgage interest deduction to mortgages of $500,000 but grandfathered existing mortgages up to the old million cap.

Senate Bill:
I believe gets rid of property tax deduction in total as well as the state income tax deduction.

Keeps one million cap on mortgage interest deduction.

I think the house bill is a little more "fair" to avoid changing the rules mid game.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 1:39 am
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
311 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:46 am to
lol, congrats GOP. You just saved your wealthy donors a boatload of money while saving the upper middle class basically nothing, raising taxes on much of the middle class, making sure everybody's insurance premiums go up, and raising taxes on poor graduate students to the point that STEM graduate programs will suffer immensely.

Can't wait to see how this works out for ya!

When a lot of you celebrating here tonight end up paying more money in taxes in the long run, it's going to be hilarious watching your Trump reality distortion fields try to blame it on Obama some how, haha
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 1:50 am to
Lookie it is a 25 post alter!

I will be paying less and I am not rich and my company will be making more which is good for me and my portfolio will be making more.

My portfolio, my wallet, my job, and I cordially invite you to go frick yourself!
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23904 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:00 am to
Lol, nobody care what you think frog.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21833 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:01 am to
I just read in a USA Today article that the corporate tax cuts would start in 2019. It didn’t say specifically when individual cuts would start. I’m hoping before then.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:05 am to
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raising taxes on much of the middle class, making sure everybody's insurance premiums go up,


Cough up the links.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74129 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:19 am to
Stop lying you French piece of shite

Every single objective analysis of the tax bill finds it lowers taxes on all income groups
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68292 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:19 am to
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lol, congrats GOP. You just saved your wealthy donors a boatload of money while saving the upper middle class basically nothing, raising taxes on much of the middle class, making sure everybody's insurance premiums go up, and raising taxes on poor graduate students to the point that STEM graduate programs will suffer immensely.


I consider myself lower-middle class and my taxes are going down significantly
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68292 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:20 am to
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Cough up the links.


The only links he has are to Democratic Underground and MSNBC.
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
21216 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 3:26 am to
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On Trumps desk Christmas Eve


How great would it be if he signed it dressed as Santa? It would cause the melt to go from a 6 to 10 easily.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22730 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 3:53 am to
quote:

lol, congrats GOP. You just saved your wealthy donors a boatload of money while saving the upper middle class basically nothing, raising taxes on much of the middle class, making sure everybody's insurance premiums go up, and raising taxes on poor graduate students to the point that STEM graduate programs will suffer immensely.

Can't wait to see how this works out for ya!

When a lot of you celebrating here tonight end up paying more money in taxes in the long run, it's going to be hilarious watching your Trump reality distortion fields try to blame it on Obama some how, haha


shut the frick up, Doug. Dilly dilly.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
12639 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:17 am to
Here are the talking points from Senator Bill Cassidy.

quote:

The bill doubles the Child Tax Credit to $2,000, lowers income tax rates across the board, nearly doubles the standard deduction to $12,000 for an individual and $24,000 for a couple filing jointly, preserves the Adoption Tax Credit as well as deductions for home mortgage interest and charitable contributions. According to the Tax Foundation’s analysis, the bill will boost take-home pay for Louisiana families by more than $1,800 a year and create more than 12,600 new jobs in Louisiana alone. In an open letter to Congress, 137 economists announced their support for the tax reform effort, writing, “Economic growth will accelerate if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act passes, leading to more jobs, higher wages, and a better standard of living for the American people.” As a member of the Senate Finance Committee, Cassidy crafted or help spearhead several provisions in the Senate’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, including those that: Provide victims of last year’s floods in North and South Louisiana with $500 million in disaster tax relief, exempting them from tax penalties on early withdrawals of retirement account funds used for rebuilding and recovery, and allowing income tax deductions for qualifying personal casualty losses. Preserve the Historical Tax Credit, which since 2002 has facilitated over 782 projects in Louisiana, encouraging more than $2.5 billion in private rehabilitation investments and creating more than 38,000 jobs. Restore nearly $100 million in funding for coastal restoration projects in Louisiana, making up for the projected GOMESA revenue shortfall. Keep full business expense deduction for automobile, truck, boat, motorcycle, and farm implement dealers who use floor plan financing. This will ensure small business dealers are treated fairly and are not subject to the risk of paying higher taxes, protecting jobs and economic growth. Reduce potential effects of a new investment excise tax on large private college endowments, helping small institutions such as Centenary College of Louisiana. Preserve Private Activity Bonds (PABs), which are widely used for airport and seaport projects, affordable housing, and nonprofit health and education facilities. In 2016, over $72 billion in PABs were issued for investments in nonprofit hospitals and universities, along with over $12 billion in PABs for airports, housing, and rural public cooperatives. Keep existing business structure commonly referred to as IC-DISC (Interest Charge Domestic International Sales Corporation). This will encourage small and medium businesses to export goods made in Louisiana. Identified deficit reduction mechanisms to help pay for a state and local property tax deduction up to $10,000, and an increased deduction (17.4 to 23 percent) for small business owners’ qualified business income (“pass-throughs”).
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 4:39 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138693 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 4:20 am to
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GOP Tax Bill Votes - In Game Thread - Senate Passes 51 - 49
lol, congrats GOP. You just saved your wealthy donors a boatload of money while saving the upper middle class basically nothing
You guys probably could have done well with that messaging, if only your anti-Trump media sycophants weren't slobbering all over the Flynn story instead.

Too bad.
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20640 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 5:48 am to
So what are the new tax brackets and rates?
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
11139 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:07 am to
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lol, congrats GOP. You just saved your wealthy donors a boatload of money while saving the upper middle class basically nothing, raising taxes on much of the middle class, making sure everybody's insurance premiums go up, and raising taxes on poor graduate students to the point that STEM graduate programs will suffer immensely.
thanks it’s been a long upward hill to climb to get here but we got her done. Sounds like you’ve been ingesting those moronic talking points from Schumer on demand. My best friend studies economics at LSU and can give you a litany of reasons you’re wrong by the way
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8291 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:07 am to
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paying more money in taxes in the long run


Explain how? Or STFU

Thanks
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 7:09 am
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:13 am to
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Every single objective analysis of the tax bill finds it lowers taxes on all income groups

Please share links, thanks.
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