re: GOP senators oppose BBB

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Who actually supports this?

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100% of Congressional Dems, 40-50% of the GOP, and each of their respective electorates.

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They can do whatever they want with the bill with no repercussions. Trump and his team have done a terrible job of explaining the bill and its provisions to voters. I call myself paying attention, and I’m confused. The average person doesn’t have a clue, much less enough to make their Representative or Senator feel any pressure.

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There's several very important points all rolled up here.

A) Yes, Trump admin has done a terrible job of explaining here. There were actually overall cuts in discretionary spending as compared to the 2025 CR/budget. But, Trump was always going to play 'average' politics here instead of going outside the box. He was always only going to 'request' a budget that Johnson could pass, and then declare victory no matter what. And that's biting and going to continue to bite him in the arse. Starting with the senate.

B) No, the average person doesn't have a clue. Hell, people here well versed in bond market transactions, yield curves, etc. struggle to really know where this actually goes because the defecit spending while 'present' and a real thing is also projected based on GDP growth AND using tax cuts as 'spending'. So they could let the tax cuts expire and declare they cut the deficit which would harm us; but they can make their talking points.

C) And the most important, sigificant, and timely point you made was:

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They can do whatever they want with the bill with no repercussions.

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That's where Trump made his political error; at the same time many of these congressmen just might be duplicating it.

The error I think they are making: do they really think the American people will punish them for making real cuts, in absolute dollars, almost across the board versus putting on a show for the sake of show that we've seen before?

That's the calculation they are making based off of lessons they failed to learn from the last election. They would be celebrated if they took a knife, a texas toothpick and not a little pen knife, to spending. But they think the American people would hate them for it. Trump made a political error in not pushing Johnson that way instead opting for some semblance/perception of a win.

Or maybe the congress is willfully blind to what the American people actually want in an effort to keep the money machine and all the kickback/lobby tentacles in place.

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Oh well, the tax breaks were nice while they lasted.

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If they come with debt, what good is it doing you?

I’m glad the opposition is talking about more cuts rather than being worried about cuts to spending causing a backlash


So do something about it. Rewrite the bill to cut more spending, pass it, send it back to the House. I think it should cut 500 billion per year minimum. 5 trillion over next 10 years. Include codifying some of Trumps EOs on regulations to make our economy more business friendly so GDP growth can make up the rest of the deficit

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So, all of the sudden we have Republicans threatening to vote no because of too much spending???? This doesn't add up. Not long ago we were worried about Republicans not supporting Trumps American First ideas and now, they are opposing Trump for not being American First enough???

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It’s all a game to try and appear to represent the voters while keeping things business as usual. These fiscal hawks oppose it because not enough cuts. Then they’ll write in more cuts. Then the squishy moderates like Murkowski, Collins, Cornyn, McConnell will oppose it because it “goes too far, we can’t take food out of poor people’s mouths or healthcare or SS away from granny blah blah blah, and nobody will touch the elephant in the room (defense spending) so we will end up with a CR that funds everything and everyone including the “fiscal hawks” will vote yes and say we have to avoid a shutdown and get back to the drawing table. Trump will try to sell it as a win.

GOP loses midterms and will go back to what they do best, being a minority opposition party

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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who on Sunday called the bill's spending cuts "wimpy"
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Is he actually gonna get the cuts he wants or will.get swamped

I hope these guys make it happen

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Build Back Better
Big Beautiful Bill

Maybe D.C. politicians should move away from the BBB nicknames.

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Hmmm, Or maybe where there's smoke there's fire.


Build Back Better
Big Beautiful Bill

The intent of either is not to "Build Better" or be a "Beautiful Bill". Both our currency and heartland are on fire with no relief in sight.

Coincidence? Or nothing to see here?

BBB = bbb = 666 (?)

Magick? Spell-casting? IS it possible? Reminder who is running this world. Maybe they want us to see "it"...on purpose.

Jes' sayin'.

No, he’s just going to be a contrarian holier than thou litmus test “principled” libertarian, pointing fingers and judging, rather than actually DO something.

It doesn’t need to make sense for them… the key takeaway here is the establishment opposing Trump.

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Many are choosing to support congressmen who have fricked them over for decades

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They were also in congress when we started a proxy war against Russia through Ukraine.