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re: George W. Bush says Russia meddled in 2016 US election
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:11 am to Maximusheals
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:11 am to Maximusheals
quote:Yes? Go on...
Go give Bannon a huge
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:31 am to Strannix
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it's problematic that a foreign nation is involved in our election system
The US meddles in probably almost every election in the world. That's also problematic, Bush.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:34 am to Strannix
"GWB Makes Totally Reasonable Comments"
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:35 am to Maximusheals
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Don't talk about George W. Bush with such disrespect. He was a fine president. I would hate to see how Trump would have handled Sep 11th 2001.
My guess is Trump wouldn't have used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq and get thousands of our men and women killed so members of his cabinet could make a larger profit. Do you think we'd still be fighting goat herders in Afghanistan almost 2 decades later if Trump were President in 2001? The Bush Administration was a disaster for foreign policy and civil liberties.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:40 am to Strannix
Its weird how all of our intelligence organizations say they meddled in the election but yall don't believe it?
I'm having a hard time understanding this. Why would anyone be "proud to be an American" if they think their leadership and intelligence would lie about something of this magnitude?
U guys really dont think Russia tried to alter the election in anyway?
I'm having a hard time understanding this. Why would anyone be "proud to be an American" if they think their leadership and intelligence would lie about something of this magnitude?
U guys really dont think Russia tried to alter the election in anyway?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:42 am to Maximusheals
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George W. Bush
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He was a fine president
The Patriot Act was a massive violation of American's civil liberties. It's as bad as weaponizing the IRS, DOJ, and the FBI against political opponents. W should be taken to task for this, but he gets a free pass for some reason.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:43 am to AmericaOverParties
Most on this board aren’t proud to be American... they’re proud to be trumpkins.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:44 am to fouldeliverer
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and didn't desire a Trump victory
Why would they want a Trump victory when Clinton was more willing to work with them? She already sold them uranium.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:45 am to SCLibertarian
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My guess is Trump wouldn't have used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq and get thousands of our men and women killed so members of his cabinet could make a larger profit. Do you think we'd still be fighting goat herders in Afghanistan almost 2 decades later if Trump were President in 2001? The Bush Administration was a disaster for foreign policy and civil liberties.
It's just amazing to me that despite the legitimacy of criticism on Bush's handling of Iraq, these Code Pink-level arguments are still in use.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:47 am to NIH
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The Russians did meddle in our election, there was no collusion which is a big difference.
The US meddles in elections, Russia meddles in elections, China meddles in elections.
Any country with geo-political presence meddles in elections. Trying to pretend that the US is exempt is ludicrous. It has happened to us before 2016, and it will happen again.
That is totally separate from any collusion:
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:48 am to AmericaOverParties
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ts weird how all of our intelligence organizations say they meddled in the election but yall don't believe it?
I'm having a hard time understanding this. Why would anyone be "proud to be an American" if they think their leadership and intelligence would lie about something of this magnitude?
U guys really dont think Russia tried to alter the election in anyway?
how could anyone thats "proud to be an American" believe anything the government says. lol
Look they did "meddle". They do that. So do we. That has nothing to do with the outcome and nothing to do with trump or hillary for that matter.
the collusion line of trump working with russia to get dirt on hillary. what in the blue balls do you thing hillary and the dossier was. ..
getting dirt on a political party is not a crime.
the entire process that the DNC use to put trump under investigation IS A CRIME.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:49 am to AmericaOverParties
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Its weird how all of our intelligence organizations say they meddled in the election but yall don't believe it?
Has the DNC server been analyzed by anyone other than Crowd Strike? The answer is no. Has Julian Assange indicated the emails weren't hacked by the Russians but were instead provided by an inside leaker? The answer is yes.
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Why would anyone be "proud to be an American" if they think their leadership and intelligence would lie about something of this magnitude?
James Clapper expressly lied to Congress about the extent of NSA spying and data compilation and, but for the whistleblowing of Edward Snowden, we'd be none the wiser. Our own government officials lied to the public just weeks ago in claiming that we'd be subject to a national security threat if the FISA memo were released. The world hasn't ended yet.
I don't know if Russia attempted to meddle in our elections, but I do know that the alignment of neoliberal Democrats, neoconservative Republicans and the mainstream media to oppose the Trump presidency by any and all means is more dangerous to us than any foreign power.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:50 am to Strannix
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Americans don't want to pick cotton at 105 degrees (Fahrenheit), but there are people who want put food on their family's tables and are willing to do that
Congratulations Dreamers. You’re our new Africans.
Whatever happened to Bush not criticizing sitting presidents? Didn’t he go out of his way to not talk about Obama?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:50 am to Strannix
It’s becoming clear the FBI and DOJ did more to meddle in the election than “Russians” ever thought about doing.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:50 am to SCLibertarian
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My guess is Trump wouldn't have used 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq and get thousands of our men and women killed so members of his cabinet could make a larger profit.
Well, we don't have to guess that W wouldn't have done that.
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Do you think we'd still be fighting goat herders in Afghanistan almost 2 decades later if Trump were President in 2001?
This is why I laugh at your input on this topic. Stick to what you know.
"Libertarian."
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:52 am to fouldeliverer
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Anyone who thinks Russia didn't meddle and didn't desire a Trump victory is being willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest.
1) How did they meddle? I don't remember a gun being pointed at my head in the ballot box.
2) Is one nation desiring a certain outcome in an election now considered an international crime?
3) When did Democrats start concerning themselves with Russia? In 2012, when Romney pointed out that the Russians were our #1 geo-political foe, he was told to shut it with Cold War era politics.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:52 am to Strannix
Does anyone think he'd have said this if Yeb had been the nominee?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:52 am to CorporateTiger
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The US meddles in elections, Russia meddles in elections, China meddles in elections.
I'm not Russian or Chinese.
Are you?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:53 am to AmericaOverParties
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Its weird how all of our intelligence organizations say they meddled in the election but yall don't believe it?
I'm having a hard time understanding this. Why would anyone be "proud to be an American" if they think their leadership and intelligence would lie about something of this magnitude?
U guys really dont think Russia tried to alter the election in anyway?
This. Its not like its a CNN 'fake news' story. Rex, a member of Trumps team, has stated it as fact.
Our democracy is the very foundation of our country. Its not up for dispute whether they tried to effect our elections. And whever yall see a post on it, you do the yawn emoji.
It is quite funny how people on here pride themselves on being so American, but you bend backwards to defend Trump's lack of action against a clear foreign adversary. Spineless.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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