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re: George W. Bush released 520 prisoners from Guantanamo bay
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:41 am to a want
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:41 am to a want
Have not read thru this entire thread.. However anyone the does see the difference between the recent prisoner swap fiasco and what is implied by the OP title does not deserve any form of a response..
Mainly because they are either trolling or they do not possess the intellect to understand the explanation of the difference...
Clearly self interest and hypocrites infest our nation's capital... however, this recent prisoner swap is indeed a new and troubling low
I offer a tip of the hat with the use of this quote...
Mainly because they are either trolling or they do not possess the intellect to understand the explanation of the difference...
Clearly self interest and hypocrites infest our nation's capital... however, this recent prisoner swap is indeed a new and troubling low
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a want
"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."
-- Walt Whitman
I offer a tip of the hat with the use of this quote...
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:51 am to baybeefeetz
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Nobody respond to this stupid shite.
I see the talking points were finally emailed out. Decateur and Vegas Bengal will be out in full force today.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:54 am to TT9
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But hey you won't here it from Fox, you had to here it from me
It is really difficult to take you seriously when you can't even use "here" or "hear" in a correct manner.
With that said, did George W. Bush break the law when he released the prisoners?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 8:55 am to lsu13lsu
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I see the talking points were finally emailed out. Decateur and Vegas Bengal will be out in full force today.
Add SpideyImascientistTuba to the mix and it should be very entertaining. Uninformative and snide, but entertaining, nonetheless.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:00 am to SSpaniel
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Add SpideyImascientistTuba to the mix and it should be very entertaining. Uninformative and snide, but entertaining, nonetheless.
As long as they give us more walt whitman i'm in!
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:09 am to TT9
quote:How many were powder kegs like these 5? OK if W would have done this, right?
George W. Bush released 520 prisoners from Guantanamo bay
This post was edited on 6/5/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:17 am to TT9
Just out of curiosity, how many of the 520 released while Bush was President were transferred to the custody of other governments? How many of them were released after a court or tribunal determined they should not be detained? How many were released as a quid pro quo with an organization engaged in hostilities with the United States?
I wonder if the 5 detainees exchanged for Sgt. Bergdahl were the 5 referred to in this article LINK? If so, then the claims of the Obama administration that they could not give Congress the 30 day notice required by law is somewhat dubious since the article was written over 2 years before the exchange. The notice to Congress did not have to be specific, but the administration could have told Congress we were in serious negotiations to release the 5 individuals sought by the Taliban for some consideration the administration considered worthwhile. Even if the administration couldn't meet the 30 day requirement it could have given Congress 1 day's advance notice instead of after the fact notification. I don't know about you, but the fact Obama did not follow the letter, or even the spirit, of the law demonstrates his contempt for our system of government. That to me is the biggest issue surrounding Bergdahl.
I wonder if the 5 detainees exchanged for Sgt. Bergdahl were the 5 referred to in this article LINK? If so, then the claims of the Obama administration that they could not give Congress the 30 day notice required by law is somewhat dubious since the article was written over 2 years before the exchange. The notice to Congress did not have to be specific, but the administration could have told Congress we were in serious negotiations to release the 5 individuals sought by the Taliban for some consideration the administration considered worthwhile. Even if the administration couldn't meet the 30 day requirement it could have given Congress 1 day's advance notice instead of after the fact notification. I don't know about you, but the fact Obama did not follow the letter, or even the spirit, of the law demonstrates his contempt for our system of government. That to me is the biggest issue surrounding Bergdahl.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:17 am to GetCocky11
I know right.
Did you hear that Bush called into the dugout and talked to Paul the night LSU lost to Houston? True story.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:20 am to Poodlebrain
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Just out of curiosity, how many of the 520 released while Bush was President were transferred to the custody of other governments? How many of them were released after a court or tribunal determined they should not be detained? How many were released as a quid pro quo with an organization engaged in hostilities with the United States?
These questions do not help the OP meme. Please take your racist remarks elsewhere. Thank you.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:21 am to goatmilker
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I know right.
Did you hear that Bush called into the dugout and talked to Paul the night LSU lost to Houston? True story.
I'm going to be visiting the Bush Library at SMU in a couple weeks. I should buy a t-shirt before that says "It's Bush's Fault" and wear it around.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:28 am to GetCocky11
Ask them where the round bed is located?
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:37 am to TT9
Some questions;
first, why did W release the 520 prisoners?
second, did W break the law and not inform Congress?
three, was the swop a quid pro quo and if so what did we get in return?
four, were any of the 520 high level "officers" in AQ, the Taliban or another terrorist group?
And in my opinion letting 520 terrorists lose was a bad mistake. I can't remember the circumstances; but I'd guess W caught heat from the right.
But what does that have to do with Obama ignoring the law, and swapping five high ranking terrorists for 1 deserter? Do two wrongs make a right?
first, why did W release the 520 prisoners?
second, did W break the law and not inform Congress?
three, was the swop a quid pro quo and if so what did we get in return?
four, were any of the 520 high level "officers" in AQ, the Taliban or another terrorist group?
And in my opinion letting 520 terrorists lose was a bad mistake. I can't remember the circumstances; but I'd guess W caught heat from the right.
But what does that have to do with Obama ignoring the law, and swapping five high ranking terrorists for 1 deserter? Do two wrongs make a right?
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:40 am to doubleb
I'm not here to answer questions, I'm here to point out the hypocrisy from the right.
And judging by the hatred and name calling coming my way, they don't like it.
And judging by the hatred and name calling coming my way, they don't like it.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:43 am to TT9
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I'm not here to answer questions, I'm here to point out the hypocrisy from the right.
You need to do the former, before you can prove the latter. Its pretty simple. If your troll wasn't so obvious, you may have had some more success. Try a spinner bait next time. Drives them crazy.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 9:50 am to TT9
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I'm not here to answer questions, I'm here to point out the hypocrisy from the right
Well how many POWs did Truman release?
How many Nazis did Truman let off the hook for crimes against humanity?
Just lumping pow releases all together and saying all presidents do it ignores the facts of the day.
Obama is the president now, debating what W did, Reagan did, Truman did is just mental gymnastics.
Obama is our president, he broke the law, and he's going to take the heat for what he did even if we learn George Washington let King George loose.
Reality is we have a sitting president who seems to be above the law, who makes irrational policy decisions, who feigns ignorance when confronted, and he's weakening America's position on the world stage on a daily basis now.
And don't get me started on domestic issues because after 5+ years of Obamanomics and record spending; we just had a negative quarter of growth.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:19 am to TT9
It could possibly be that Bush thought after interigation that those 500 or so were no danger to our troops and citizens. Those 5 that your good buddy let go may have been detained by Bush because maybe, just maybe they are a danger to troops and citizens. And traded for a suspected trader and colaborator.
Hypocrisy? What always blame the republicans for that when you guys use that in your everyday lives?![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
Hypocrisy? What always blame the republicans for that when you guys use that in your everyday lives?
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:20 am to TT9
Quantity versus quality so to speak. It makes all the difference in the world.
Frankly, this thread did not go the way you intended so you're refusing an honest debate.![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconspank.gif)
Frankly, this thread did not go the way you intended so you're refusing an honest debate.
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Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:21 am to TT9
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I'm not here to answer questions
you could work for the Obama administration
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:26 am to TT9
Yep, Bush is clearly to blame for Obama releasing terrorists. ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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