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re: Gen Z and Millennials are burnt out, not from working hard, but because they lack hope

Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:21 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:21 am to
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The OP article is focused primarily on Millennials,


Don't forget Gen Z
Posted by Enadious
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:26 am to
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The context for this burnout crisis that young people are being forced to navigate multiple world-altering crises all at once: climate change, political instability, ongoing effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war.

Some are self-created soul cages like climate change. There has always been political instability, economic uncertainty, and international conflicts. The only difference is we didn't have the internet and a fricking window to mass media 24/7. The cure to prevent burnout is to remove the distractions. Focus on what matters at hand that you can somewhat control, family, work, school. Turn off the noise and feel the weight of the world lift off your shoulders.
Posted by southdowns84
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:33 am to
Well said.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:35 am to
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Don't forget Gen Z


Most Gen Zers haven’t worked long enough to qualify for burnout. 1997-2012.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:41 am to
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Suzy Welch says Gen Z and millennials are burnt out because older generations worked just as hard, but they ‘had hope’


I've got at least two guys working for me who are burnt out right now.

Ones pretty much stopped going to work, the other is burning harder hoping to get through it.

I've been burnt out multiple times in my life.

I've worked 70 hour weeks and had tons of fun, I've worked 45 hour weeks and been completely toasted.

I spent a lot of time talking to older generations (Silents and boomers mostly, one of my grandfather's was a greatest but he was a pile of shite, my silent generation grandfather was a good guy).

The pensions and lifetime jobs that a college degree or getting HS diploma and an in at the right company brought definitely helped, but my grandfather burned out in the early 80s when his company was relocating and laying people off.
His father spent a lot of time burned out just listening to the radio and ignoring the family (my great grandfather was a lost generation and he served during WWI, and worked through the great depression, he lost his job for a while when he was blackballed for union organzing, social security probably saved his life).

As they both experienced burnout due to job instability, I also feel that this post pension generation where companies can cut your after a bad year, where skill sets are changed every couple years.

Is bound to burn people out.

What did you do for me this year.
It gets old.

My dad got a blue collar union job and never burned out once, he never made a lot of money, spent himself into debt, but honestly he never burned out even once, he had a steady job for life.
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 9:45 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 9:51 am to
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this post pension generation
Yep. That is quite a salient point.
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 11:06 am to
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I'm returning from Europe where folks are thrilled to own 700 sq-ft apartment-condos. They think they're on top of the world. They'd tell you to frick off with your screeching.


Cute.

One of those costs what a whole house would have cost 10 years ago.

frick off.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 11:29 am to
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Cute.

One of those costs what a whole house would have cost 10 years ago.

frick off.
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
179 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 11:31 am to
So people who are now in their early to mid 30's should have bought when they were in their early to mid 20's?

Gee, I wonder what kind of things would have stopped them from buying back then.........
Posted by DrrTiger
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 11:51 am to
Yay. Is this another thread where we get to hear how millennials who were all in on Covid hysteria complain about the economic fallout from it?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 11:59 am to
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So people who are now in their early to mid 30's should have bought when they were in their early to mid 20's?
Interest rates were low until Biden took office. At that point, both home prices and rates jumped, crushing affordability.

Prior to 2021, homeownership was simply not a Gen-Y priority. This is neither opinion, nor novel info. It was well recognized in real time.
quote:


Here’s why millions of millennials are not homeowners
by Annie Nova
Aug 30 2019


“In my generation — I’m a baby boomer — you bought a home as quickly as you could,” said Laurie Goodman of the Urban Institute. “You didn’t take a vacation for years to save for the down payment on your first home.”

Millennials are in less of a rush to get their hands on house keys, Goodman said.

Delayed marriage has one of the biggest impacts on their low homeownership rate, the Urban Institute found. Marriage increases one’s likelihood of owning a home by 18 percentage points.

Yet millennials are wedding later — and less. In 1960, the average age at which women and men first married was in their early 20s. Today, the median age for a first marriage is closer to 30. And millennials are three times as likely to have never married as members of the silent generation — those in their 70s and 80s — when they were young.

“Homeownership represents a stable place to live for the rest of my life,” Goodman said. “And a lot of single people think this isn’t the rest of my life — I’m going to find a mate and we’re going to put roots down together.”

LINK
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted by southdowns84
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:03 pm to
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This is neither opinion, nor novel info. It was well recognized in real time.


This is high comedy coming from someone so dismissive of objective facts.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51684 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:09 pm to
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It was definitely more than a spectacle.

That's a good example of someone who is directly affected. I lived through that tragedy as well. It pissed me off. In no way, shape, or form could I use that to say I've had a hard life.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58551 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Millennials had opportunities which they stereotypically shirked in exchange for social experiences. Home ownership, marriage, family were deemphasized. They were put off. They could could wait.


Shirked? Many of us graduated college as the Great Recession took hold. We didn’t decide to trade home ownership for unemployment.
Posted by TheBaker
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:28 pm to
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and international conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war.


These insufferable pussies have cold sweats at night with the “psychological burden” of knowing there’s a Russian/Ukrainian conflict, while this Gen X’er actually fought in 2 different middle-eastern war campaigns. My life could be a LOT worse so I consider myself blessed. What a bunch of weak-minded bitches the Z’ers and millennials are being forced to believe they have PTSD from watching tv.
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
179 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:52 pm to
And whyyyy do millennials and gen Z get married so much later?

C'mon buddy, you're getting closer.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 12:54 pm to
I’m interested to hear your answer.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Many of us graduated college as the Great Recession took hold.
The great recession was bad. It started in '08. It ended mid-2009.

That left 10-12 yrs to jump into the pre-Biden housing market. Stereotypes are not all inclusive though. E.g., Did you put off marriage and home ownership? If not, you are inadvertently making the case against your own argument.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 1:19 pm to
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And whyyyy do millennials and gen Z get married so much later?

Google is there for you. I just posted an article from 2019 discussing it. There were volumes of sociological materials published on the subject. You seem very emotional about this though. Perhaps do some research, and take the facts a little less personally.
Posted by Perrin Aybara
Member since Dec 2021
179 posts
Posted on 9/20/25 at 2:14 pm to
I'll take that as your surrender.
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