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re: Gabbard Confirms US Funded Bio-labs in Ukraine

Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:59 am to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:59 am to
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There is nothing new here. There are good reasons for funding them.


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Gabbard says these laboratories were involved in gain-of-function research, research she warns has directly contributed to pandemics and major global health crises.


No, there isn't.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:00 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46508 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:01 am to
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the proof of Obama treason


Research the 2 meetings Obama had with his "intelligence" people shortly before leaving office. The first one was in early December of 2016. They told Obama that Trump/Russia was a farce, but he refused to accept the information.

So, the America-hating race-baiting community AGITATOR told them to come back in a month with a different scenario. Voila!, Obama met with them in early January and his intelligence people had concocted a false narrative of Trump/Russia collusion.

Just like ol' boy had ordered them to do.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67618 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:02 am to
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the newly installed western backed regime on the territories of the Donbass and Dunetsk regions,


Wow, you do have a gift for contorting history to fit your narrative. You really were impressed by Stalin and his successors?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:02 am to
Right. It was a blatant attempt at overthrowing the duly elected government of the United States. Treason on its face. And that poster knows it, but that is not the topic. Don't let him drag the thread off topic.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7297 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:04 am to
So you’ll just call ANYTHING “proof” huh?

Is that what you thought she was talking about when she announced “breaking news” 6mo ago? Something that allegedly happened in 2016??

It’s no wonder why ppl constantly complain NOThiNg EVer HaPPeNs and can’t for the life of them figure out why.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57050 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:05 am to
I don't believe her. I would like to see what she calls gain of function. And in case you didn't realize it, gain of function research can occur without involving bioweapons development or BSL-4. It can occur at BSL-2. You can perform gain of function research on the flu virus for example. Not a good idea of course.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:07 am to
Is that just a map of Ukraine’s largest cities? Honestly asking because I don’t know anything about Ukraine
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:08 am to
You are, of course, entitled to believe the DNI is lying. But from my perspective, this is something we were calling out years ago and is now being confirmed by the DNI.

You sound like a conspiracy theorist.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
7409 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 am to
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this is something we were calling out years ago and is now being confirmed by the DNI.

You have a tweet from someone who isn't the DNI, with no direct quotes from the DNI, but hey they did include her picture so that's a nice attempt at legitimacy.

She very famously made these allegations long before she was appointed, back in 2021/22

Is there any actual video or quoted statement from her as DNI making the same claims? Anything at all from this year?

Tweets repackaging old news and making it seem current are all the rage right now, this just seems like more of the same
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7297 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 am to
She’s just distorting a lot of half truths to create a useful narrative for Trump. This is her role.

FWIW ChatGPT Grok and Gemini all think the claims are largely garbage.

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Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:17 am to
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FWIW ChatGPT Grok and Gemini all think the claims are largely garbage.



No they don't. I just gave Grok's response. Quit lying.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67618 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:17 am to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:28 am to
Also, chatGPT sucks. Quit using it.



Grok was trying to overcorrect as well, but I wouldn't let it.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18878 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:31 am to
Well there you have it, a reporter who writes opinion pieces in the Washington Post is more knowledgeable than the head of national intelligence.

Are you kidding me?????

Ask yourself a simple question. When the US could use 1000s of labs, with infrastructure and personnel in the US......would they build from scratch labs in one of the most corrupt countries in the world....to test for salmonella and foot fungus??????????
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21434 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:31 am to
This was never a conspiracy. Domestic companies like Black & Veatch engineered and built them. The documents are all public.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18114 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:31 am to
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The early bombings align pretty well with the US Biolabs in Ukraine, do they not??


Exactly. Very few remember that opening salvo and why it was necessary.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:33 am to
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This was never a conspiracy.


Not to rational people. But to the people who want to get Trump at all costs, this shite was ridiculed and slammed as conspiracy theory from the jump. I remember it clearly. Even when presented with frickin facts they still called it a conspiracy theory.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2303 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:37 am to
I member. Anyone mentioned it and they were treated like nut cases.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3462 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:39 am to
Yep. And by a pretty large contingent of posters even right here. It's fun to kinda take note of who those posters were denying undisputable facts and then pay attention to how they post today.
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