Fundamental Right to Vote Question (Choose A or B)

B and it should not be possible to vote without ID should be federal law

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A) It is more important to ensure every American citizens' right to vote and that their vote is counted even if that means some fraudulent votes are also counted.

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This dilutes every valid vote by every fraudulent vote.

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B)It is more important to ensure fraudulent votes are stopped, even if that means that some American citizens' actual votes are not counted.

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This is not a crazy ideal - this is very doable. Voter ID (which can be fixed with a tax credit or a very, very easy means to make this at no actual cost to the voter) and show up to vote, in person is the norm (and most states have early voting for convenience). Absentee voting should be the exception, but available to the military, those working out of their home area, etc.

It isn't complicated and we don't have to have a vote harvesting system that is literally rife with abuse, corruption and cheating. That's the opposite of Democracy - that's Banana Republic bullshite.

How about we end voting fraud forever by making it punishable by death?

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B and it should not be possible to vote without ID should be federal law

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This & this

As I said, that's the goal.

How do you handle people that are not in their place of residence during either early voting or election day voting. military, travel nurses, contract employees, people unable to phyisically get to a polling place like elderly, those who are sick with a communicable disease that they don't want to pass on to others, or any number of other exceptions?

There are plenty of people that have some sort of discrepancy with their voter registration or were removed from the voting roll and can only fill out a provisional ballot. That provisional ballot is only counted if it goes to a recount and there is no way to verify whether that ballot is accepted or rejected which it can be for any number of ways.

If a dead person votes and cancels mine then this whole thing is a sham.

Closer to (A) than to (B).

All reasonable steps should certainly be taken to limit fraudulent voting, but there is clearly a point at which the "cost" (whether in the form of dollars or in the forum of interference with legitimate voters) will exceed the benefit.

Will I spend $1 to prevent 1 million fraudulent votes? Absolutely. I think everyone would do that.

Will I spend $1 million to prevent that one last fraudulent vote in the entire country? frick no, and I doubt that ANY sane person would do so.

The disagreement lies in identifying the balance point.

For instance, the Right keeps talking about all the jillions and gazillions of illegal aliens who are voting in our elections, but the (Republican) Texas AG recently did a thorough study and found that the instance of voting by illegal aliens is something like 1/100 of one percent of the vote.

Sorry, but I ain't spending one red cent to stop something that is a rounding error on a rounding error. I have higher priorities for my tax dollars ... including keeping them if possible. If the "problem" ever reaches the level of being statistically-material, we can revisit the issue at that time.

The question is which happens more often. Actual voter fraud is rare as frick whereas there are a sizable number American citizens whose vote is disregarded due to republican bs. You should care about both and frame policy choices around minimizing both. Implementing policies that you know dramatically and knowingly impedes A while doing little to nothing about B is bad policy and antidemocratic.