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re: Fulton County admits they did not follow the rules.

Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:24 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:24 am to
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Regardless, for example, after a GA 2022 primary, initial DVS machine results showed zero Election Day votes for a candidate, Michelle Long Spears, in all but seven precincts — including in her own precinct where she knew she and her husband had voted.


OH frick

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An initial machine recount, as with the 2020 processes, generated an identical result --- zero votes in all but seven precincts. Eventually a "programming error" was identified. When corrected, Spears won the election. There were numerous issues with the Raffensperger recounts in 2020.


*ETA: the safeguards in the 2022 election were the...recounts.

Why would recounts not be hte same in 2020?

You know less of those details than you should
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:26 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:31 am to
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You're conflating the clerical error with "fraud"


A couple of tapes is a clerical error. A large number of tapes representing hundreds of thousands of votes is not a clerical error.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:33 am to
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A couple of tapes is a clerical error. A large number of tapes representing hundreds of thousands of votes is not a clerical error.


Then what is it, exactly? It's not fraud.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:33 am to
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Government workers are a particular kind of idiot, is my best guess


So it’s ok that there’s an accountability gap across 315k votes?

I don’t believe anyone is saying that 315k votes were invented out of thin air, but this combined with what else we know about Fulton, including Fulton’s refusal to be transparent with ballot images in 2025 despite state law

https://www.ajc.com/politics/fulton-county-refuses-to-provide-all-2020-ballots-despite-new-georgia-law/MGUAISQTAFDPXCUB7XSS33Z47A/

Means people are rightfully distrustful of results.
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:37 am to
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So it’s ok that there’s an accountability gap across 315k votes?


Who said that? Now you're pivoting and changing the discussion.

The elections officials should be reprimanded at a minimum and fined heavily in a more equitable punishment.

Saying there weren't any actual impacts on legitimate votes is not the same thing as saying it was "OK".

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I don’t believe anyone is saying that 315k votes were invented out of thin air,

I'd take that bet.

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:40 am to
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However, this error doesn't indicate the type of fraud oft-referenced in "The Steal"



Wrong as always.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:43 am to
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Yes, this has been discussed about 10x on here. Due to the clerical error, Trump could have won GA. It would not have swung the election, though. However, this error doesn't indicate the type of fraud oft-referenced in "The Steal" I just summarized the story/discussion in 2 sentences.


This happened all over the country.

The 2020 election was stolen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:46 am to
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The Steal"


Wrong as always.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 7:51 am to
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This happened all over the country.


Democrats put Biden's victory in jeopardy all over the country?
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 8:46 am to
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Can you describe how chain of custody specifically applies, or is a particular concern, to this story about the 315k votes?


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If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted. Notably, this happened in Montana, where officials discovered more votes than were cast and believe the votes were leftover sample data that had not been cleared. “These signed tapes are the sole legal certification that the reported totals are authentic,” Cross told the SEB at the Dec. 9 hearing. “Fulton County produced zero signed tabulator tapes in early voting.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:06 am to
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If there is no record of whether the tabulator was set at zero at the start of polling, there is no way of telling whether ballots from a previous election (or ballots from a test run) were left on the memory card and might later be counted.


There is a way, and it was done. Multiple times.

Chain of custody had no relevance to that process.

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“These signed tapes are the sole legal certification that the reported totals are authentic,” Cross told the SEB at the Dec. 9

Cross was either being intentionally dishonest, is dumb, or is ignorant.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:14 am to
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Due to the clerical error,


Clerical errors that result in states going to the wrong Presidential candidate(and most certainly swinging a Senate race should result in decades in prison for anyone remotely involved
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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Trump could have won GA. It would not have swung the election, though.


It’s as if you are completely disregarding what everyone saw play out in real time on election night. We saw this EXACT same scenario play out in multiple states at the exact same time. Even better is the talking heads and dems on television discussing a scenario months in advance where we go to bed thinking DJT is the winner but come morning time Biden will be the president elect. So not only did it happen, it happened exactly like they said it would happy. Take your BuT iT diDN’t SWinG tHE ElEctION non sense and forcefully place it up your arse. You were wrong then. You are wrong today and you will be wrong for eternity.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:16 am to
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Clerical errors that result in states going to the wrong Presidential candidate(and most certainly swinging a Senate race should result in decades in prison for anyone remotely involved


It hasn't even been determined that this issue would invalidate the votes (hence "could" being used in my initial post)

These were valid, legal votes but-for this error. I think y'all are trying to spin them into invalid, fraudulent votes.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:22 am to
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There is a way, and it was done. Multiple times.


shite in = shite out

They weren’t zeroed out. You can count and recount the ballots to infinity with the same results, but there’s no way to tell what was loaded on the tabulators and supplemented.

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:23 am to
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These were valid, legal votes but-for this error. I think y'all are trying to spin them into invalid, fraudulent votes.


They are invalid per the law.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:24 am to
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It would not have swung the election, though.





they cheate dtheir asses off in AZ, Wi, MI and PA

fn moron
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:24 am to
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They weren’t zeroed out. You can count and recount the ballots to infinity with the same results, but there’s no way to tell what was loaded on the tabulators and supplemented.


Precisely.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:25 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/23/25 at 9:30 am to
It’s probably been covered already in this thread that I haven’t started really.

It’s probably been covered already in this thread that I haven’t started really.

The tabulation software has zero audit trail.

It also includes the ability to “adjudicate” a ballot that doesn’t auto adjudicate, Create a ballot to match the ballot that has been adjudicated and Print it out.

I suspect it’s possible to do that in batch processing. Meaning, I could create a database file of what votes should look like, randomized enough to follow certain patterns, but not give away the fraud upfront, replace ballots that didn’t auto adjudicate with the batch database file and print out ballots to match the adjudicated ballots created from the file. Then what does the recount count?
This post was edited on 12/23/25 at 9:32 am
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