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Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:40 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Failure to obey a police officer?
does this justify an arse kicking.
What about speeding, Jaywalking, Parking ticket? Let's just start kicking everyone's arse.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:43 pm to mindbreaker
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does this justify an arse kicking.
What about speeding, Jaywalking, Parking ticket? Let's just start kicking everyone's arse
i'm sorry, but where did i say anything about it being justified? I'll wait.
I was merely pointing out juice's comment.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:44 pm to Lg
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Sure. Normally a ticket.
But if it's more than a ticket, they deserve whatever happens.
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You're an idiot.
You clearly don't know much about this subject. Take the case of Autumn Steele, a 34-year old mother who was killed by a police officer in front of her 3-year old child. The police officer was "attacked" by a dog, tried to shoot it because shooting at a dog with children around is obviously a great idea, missed the dog and hit Autumn Steele, killing her. Thankfully the officer didn't also kill the father and child who were only a couple feet from Autumn.
Who do people blame for this incident? They blame Autumn Steele because the police officer was on the scene for a domestic violence call. The officer is not at fault for being a reckless fool. No, the woman is responsible for her own death because once the police show up all bets are off. Police are a Force of Nature, not responsible for what they do once they are "on the scene".
This is just one of countless cases where there was no reason for the police officer to even have his weapon unholstered, much less discharge it, yet the blame is still falls on the person who was shot. That's how these things always play out.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:45 pm to Pecker
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We have many here ignoring basic problems with the report from police. Why? Because "acting like a criminal" is grounds for a beating.
I ran across this while looking for something else. So what would be the difference in what happened here and the boy in Troy? If all police are blood thirsty animals, shouldn't this guy be in a little worse shape than what he looks. He even fired on police while fleeing to the woods.
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:46 pm to mindbreaker
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What about speeding, Jaywalking, Parking ticket? Let's just start kicking everyone's arse.
Poor example. You see... you can speed, jaywalk, and park illegally but still obey a police officer.
Now if you speed and try to out run the cops and then stop your car and run on foot, you're likely to get your arse kicked.
If an officer asks you to do something, you do it. Period. There is no negotiation. He/she is in charge. You can fight it later in court. It is amazing to me that people think differently.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:53 pm to Lg
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Seems like a certain officer in South Carolina had a trial before his peers for killing an unarmed assailant. So, was the mistrial the fault of the jury or some other sinister plot by the police? Can't say it was swept under the rug.
Funny you should mention that case. When the shooting first happened, it was front page news across the country, with BLM protests and everything. The mistrial was page 27 material.
There was at least one juror who watched the video of Slager shooting Walter Scott in the back, then planting evidence to frame him, and decided the shooting was justified. That is the biggest reason it's so difficult to hold police officers accountable. Too many Americans believe the police can do no wrong. A police officer could literally rape a baby in the middle of a public street and millions Americans would still say the officer was justified. They'd start speculating what the baby did to trigger the officer. Or they'd place the blame on the baby's parents. The one thing we know they would never do is blame the police officer for his own actions.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:55 pm to Lg
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If all police are blood thirsty animals
No one said that. I very clearly stated the opposite in the post that you responded to.
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I respect the job that law enforcement officers do because I know it can be difficult. There are many good cops out there.
I didn't even read the rest of your post.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:57 pm to mindbreaker
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Nah I disagree here. If someone is fighting for their life against someone trying to kill them then yes it can be needed
You're right, but that would mean it's not excessive. There are plenty of instances when force of varying degrees is absolutely necessary.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:57 pm to Papplesbeast
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The officer is not at fault for being a reckless fool.
Do you really think this doesn't have an effect on the officer?
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Police are a Force of Nature, not responsible for what they do once they are "on the scene".
Statements like this are idiotic.
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That's how these things always play out.
Is that right? Imagine what the family of this officer thinks.
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Guindon got the call. And when she arrived at the Hamiltons’ door, Crystal Hamilton was dead and Ronald Hamilton allegedly opened fire. Guindon was killed, and two other officers, Jesse Hempen, 31, and David McKeown, 33, were injured.
Imagine being in a line of work where you lose one of your co-workers every 2-1/2 days.
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A police officer is killed in the line of duty about every 2 1/2 days in the United States, according to the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund.
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:02 pm to Blob Fish
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If an officer asks you to do something, you do it. Period. There is no negotiation. He/she is in charge. You can fight it later in court. It is amazing to me that people think differently.
It's amazing to me you think that people don't have to follow the laws of civility because they wear a badge. Battery is also a crime but we conveniently say nah it's cool for cops to do that because dude was being an a-hole.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:03 pm to HailToTheChiz
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i'm sorry, but where did i say anything about it being justified? I'll wait.
You didn't and that's fair my apologies
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:08 pm to MrTide33
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The boy fled
Bad decision
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:12 pm to mindbreaker
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It's amazing to me you think that people don't have to follow the laws of civility because they wear a badge.
So you've actually seen a police officer roll up on somebody, jump out and just beat the crap out of them for "no" reason? I find that amazing.
I have seen a police officer stand there being verbally assaulted and spit on with about every word coming out of a guys mouth without beating the crap out of him.
I guess it just depends.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:12 pm to mindbreaker
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You didn't and that's fair my apologies
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:24 pm to Lg
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Do you really think this doesn't have an effect on the officer?
Right, the True Victim was Officer Jesse Hill. He'll have to live with the knowledge that he killed someone who was not a threat for the rest of his life. That's much worse than being killed, having your spouse killed, or growing up without a mother because your mother was killed by a police officer for no good reason.
Hill was suspended for a few weeks during the investigation, then was reinstated after he was cleared of wrongdoing. I feel so bad for the dude. It must suck to screw up so badly that you kill someone, yet still get to keep your job.
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Statements like this are idiotic.
I wish they were, unfortunately reality proves otherwise.
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Is that right? Imagine what the family of this officer thinks.
That sucks. I wish no police officers were ever harmed, but no one is forced to become a police officer. People are aware of the risks when they sign up for the job.
What's not okay is when police officers reduce their personal risk by increasing the risk innocent citizens like Kameron Prescott face. Kameron Prescott didn't sign up for anything. He just happened to be in the wrong place when a police officer's "stray bullet" entered his mobile home, and that "stray bullet" entered the mobile home because police overreacted to a crazy woman carrying a piece of pipe that "looked like a gun" (everything looks like a gun to police officers).
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Imagine being in a line of work where you lose one of your co-workers every 2-1/2 days.
Coworker? A police officer in Alaska is a coworker of a police officer in Florida?
Using your logic, McDonalds employees experience "coworker" deaths at a similar frequency.Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:33 pm to Papplesbeast
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McDonalds employees experience "coworker" deaths at a similar frequency.
Yeah, a whole bunch of McDonald's employees getting killed by the french fryer. What a rube.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:36 pm to Papplesbeast
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What's not okay is when police officers reduce their personal risk by increasing the risk innocent citizens
Yeah, you're right. These Milwaukee officers probably should have just reduced their personal risk and let these teens burn. Or beat the crap out of them after they pulled them out of the burning car. They did break the law and all.
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:56 pm to roadGator
I doubt very seriously if the officers knew that a gun had been found it before they pummeled him. So that should be a moot point.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:57 pm to Blob Fish
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Now if you speed and try to out run the cops and then stop your car and run on foot, you're likely to get your arse kicked.
Chris Rock summed this up best when he said, "If the police have to come and get you, they are probably bringing an asswhipping with them!"
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