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Frank Luntz focus group on vaccines and Trump voters

Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:14 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:14 pm
American Life NPR

Start at the 32:00 mark, The podcast talks down to Trump voters as if we are stupid little children who can't think for ourselves, and we are not aware of the constant false messaging the past year and half from the "scientific experts", and we are not capable of thinking for ourselves.

It's an NPR things and painful to listen to, but it is interesting to see how the other side looks at the deplorables. I think it is also interesting they think of people like Luntz, Cassidy, and Christie as influential people in the MAGA movement.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 7:17 pm
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12916 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:21 pm to
I’m not anti-vaccine. I’m anti rushed vaccine for a virus that kills a small fraction of people it infects.

Maybe if scumbag liberals hadn’t politicized the virus in order to win an election I’d be more optimistic about it. Something about being lied to over and over again leads me to not trust a thing you say.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8846 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

I’m not anti-vaccine. I’m anti rushed vaccine for a virus that kills a small fraction of people it infects.

Maybe if scumbag liberals hadn’t politicized the virus in order to win an election I’d be more optimistic about it. Something about being lied to over and over again leads me to not trust a thing you say.



That's where I am at. They get mad "why aren't Trumpers getting the vaccine". They have no self awareness, why did Kamala Harris and Cuomo say she weren't getting the vaccine because Trump was behind it, but then change tunes with Biden? Why do they all keep wearing masks outisde after being double vaccinated? Maybe they should focus on their shitty messaging first, then get back to us.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89516 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:26 pm to
Luntz is a progressive running a long con for decades. He is the sort of consultant from whence comes the "be as liberal as Dems" bullshite you've seen from the party going all the way back to HW - a rebranding of the Rockefeller Republicans as conservative-lite (meaning, "Not conservative at all but we pretend to get votes.")

frick that guy (Luntz) and anyone who takes his advice. He is the fuel for the McCains and Romneys.
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1399 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:29 pm to
Rockefeller medicine and the germ theory has a stranglehold on the world.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/2/21 at 7:30 pm
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29076 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:45 pm to
Frank Luntz is a low class slob.
Posted by Mellow Drama
Flyover Country
Member since Aug 2020
3996 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:50 pm to
I can't bear to listen to NPR anymore. I used to listen to them because I wanted to know both sides of the issue.

Now it's a battle of good VS evil.

And I sick of the lying leftist loons. Just a few weeks ago I heard Trump encourage his listeners to get the vaccine. Then the leftist lie machine keeps blaming him for Republicans not taking the shot.

Are we supposed to believe anything these loons say?
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13433 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

Maybe they should focus on their shitty messaging first, then get back to us.
They're despicable.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15412 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:27 pm to
The Tucker Beatdown of Frank Luntz was a masterpiece.

I didn't realize how in bed this fat fake RINO was with the pharmaceutical / vaccine industry.

Luntz has no credibility on this, or really any topics the conclusions he draws from his focus groups in his creepy arse Oval Office Replica in his house in California.

STFU Frank. Nobody cares what you have to say.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
1574 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

The podcast talks down to Trump voters


The podcast has only one goal. To make real this myth of "Trump Voters."

Apparently, the term conservative doesn't get the riots popping the same way as "Trump voters." Without riots, you have something called law and order. Without a lack of law and order, it's harder to break election laws and blatantly manipulate an election.

With COVID vaccines and mask mandates being lifted, I'd suspect we are going to hear about an increase in "mutant" variations of the virus and more "Trump" until it doesn't work anymore. The problem is the American populous has been dumbed down to the extent that it might not end.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7570 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:16 pm to
I think I was 6 years old when I learned not to give a frick what someone else calls me or thinks of me. Unfortunately to many are scared to be called (insert derogatory term of the day) and thus they cower to those that actually have such little self worth that they build themselves up by calling others names. Screw them all.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9145 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:16 pm to
It’s sad how they are making this all about Trump voters not getting the vaccine. This issue is cutting across all groups (they like to group us). I have been vaccinated and I know a lot of Trump supporters who have as well as conservatives. I also know a lot of Dems and black, hispanics, etc who have not.

Both of my vaccines were administered in the inner city, Biden voter, Dem, minority neighborhoods of Houston. Hard core Blue areas who voted in the Hou Dem mayor and Dora the Explorer. The centers were empty, nurses board and plenty of shots going unused. Additionally, everyday for the last couple weeks the digital emergency signs have had a message - “Free vaccine at NRG stadium wait time 0 minutes”. This is for the very people that voted for Biden and they are not showing up.

Meanwhile when I went in the Walgreens in a red/Republican/Trump area people are lined up waiting there turn and appointment for a shot.

People who are choosing not to get the shot are not doing it because they support Trump or Biden. The Dems and MSM just want to continue to separate the country and never miss an opportunity to try and vilify white people.
This post was edited on 5/3/21 at 7:07 am
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15584 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:20 pm to
Something stinks! If this vaccine is effective why are fully vaccinated people wearing not one mask but sometimes two? Why are liberals acting like my getting a shot is a 4 alarm emergency when I have not contracted the Coronavirus since the pandemic began and must be doing something right? Why are they so eager to "protect" people they hate and blame for all of our nation's problems?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80113 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:23 pm to
It's not about being safe it's about them "feeling important". When you tell them no to their face it breaks the illusion that they have any control over anything but their own shitty choices.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9145 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

Something stinks! If this vaccine is effective why are fully vaccinated people wearing not one mask but sometimes two?


Why are fully vaccinated Democrats continuing to wear mask? Why is the fully vaccinated White House continuing to wear the mask?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17888 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

I’m not anti-vaccine. I’m anti rushed vaccine for a virus that kills a small fraction of people it infects.

I'm not anti-vaccine, but two things -

1. I've had the virus and I have never felt threatened by it in the first place.

2. The government and the medical industrial complex have been dishonest about nearly everything related to COVID. Throw the media onto that pile of liars/cheats. None of these people/organizations have earned our trust. Period.
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2100 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:44 pm to
This is the progressive talking point currently.

They want conservatives (they never mention minorities not getting it) to get it to stop the mutations. They will blame conservatives if it mutates and causes more future problems.

No reflection on how the narrative changed after Nov 4
No concept of freedom body/choice

To them stupid non vaxed conservatives are an existential threat because they are vectors for dangerous mutations that could affect us all- even the vaxxed and we will never get to herd immunity with 25% of the country not wanting the vax.

Posted by SDTiger15
lost in Cali
Member since Jan 2005
11373 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:49 pm to
Frank Luntz can eat a bag of vaccinated dicks
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29038 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:50 pm to
How does that fat frick slob Luntz still have a job?
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10411 posts
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:01 pm to
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The podcast talks down to Trump voters as if we are stupid little children who can't think for ourselves,


Well....
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