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re: Fox with Breaking News: Comey's 1st draft of exoneration letter for Clinton

Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87351 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
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Those things did not change themselves.



Anybody who writes documents for public consumption knows that dialing back language is routing in revisions.

I personally think the situation with Clinton was bizarre and that Comey's behavior reminded me of Roberts' self serving maneuvering on the ACA in an attempt to preserve the reverence for the Court (Comey did the same for the FBI).

But nonetheless, I can see these changes being something other than a nefarious conspiracy. In all likelihood, it's probably something in between on the level and normal, and conspiratorial and undemocratic. It's probably typical watered down political bullshite.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:10 pm to
Obama and his ilk turned the FBI and the Justice Dept into corrupt mafia KGB type organizations.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:17 pm to
corrupt FBI, & IRS, Obama's legacy. Wonder what else will we learn? Oh I forgot the DOJ also
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:23 pm to
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At this point this is much more about the corruption and collusion at the FBI than about Hillary.

No longer a separation of powers and this is a real problem for all Americans. Forget Hillary and Trump for a moment, the politics and stuff going on in the FBI is actually quite a problem for a democracy. This is on a similar level as the IRS targeting conservative groups.

Do we want the FBI, DOJ, IRS, etc... doing this kind of shite?



Exactly.

The Right, Left, and every American should worry about that. This is a real threat to every American.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138899 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:36 pm to
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But nonetheless, I can see these changes being something other than a nefarious conspiracy.
Certainly.

HOWEVER, given Strzok's off-the-rails partisan predilections and egocentrism, if Strzok was substantially involved in the highly questionable Clinton aide immunity grants, questioning of certain key witnesses with other key witnesses present, then turning around and filing repeated FISA requests based on a Fake Dossier targeting the Trump Campaign, Strzok should be criminally prosecuted.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6494 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 5:47 pm to
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"...dialing back language..."


He could not come out and say what she did constituted "gross negligence" because that is an element of the federal crime regarding handling secured matter. A prosecutor would not have to prove intent because it can be inferred from a finding of gross negligence. Therefore, he could not make the statement that no reasonable prosecutor would push the case. By changing it to being "careless", he felt free to make the statement he did regarding what a reasonable prosecutor would do. It was much more than "dialing back language".
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:10 pm to
BUT COMEY POSTS BIBLE QUOTES WITH PICTURES OF WATERFALLS ON HIS INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT!!!!!!
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:13 pm to
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So it went from a 80% chance to a 25% chance that hostile actors gained access to her server. Does the level of chance of gaining access really matter? The only level that should matter is 0%. She still put national security at risk.




The only thing that had a 0% chance of occurring was a Clinton facing criminal charges.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55307 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:14 pm to
I announced here from the very beginning that nothing would happen to HRC because the people who run the IC and FBI would never go after a Clinton and in fact would cover up for them.
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:16 pm to
This is old news for we insiders...
Posted by trumpisboss
Member since Dec 2017
29 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:20 pm to
there is no way that nothing can happen with this....this shite got real serious the last two days....the fibbie "heros" committed crimes that they can be executed for
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55307 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:21 pm to
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McCabe, Szrok, and Page may swing from yardarms for treason if the texts are true and they conspired to take down the president.


IMHO none of these bastards are going to pay any price at all for undermining the very foundation on which the USA was built. In fact, when and if the Dems regain sufficient political power, they will be rewarded, unfortunately.

This is why, IMHO, the USA will not exist in 100 to 150 years -- its essential Intel and Law Enforcement components have been politically weaponized and corrupted. IMHO, these agencies will be unable to "cure" themselves from this illness.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15746 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:22 pm to
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At this point this is much more about the corruption and collusion at the FBI than about Hillary.



Yeah you keep believing that
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:24 pm to
Robot the clown... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by doverstutts
Member since Jul 2017
1070 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:25 pm to
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At this point this is much more about the corruption and collusion at the FBI than about Hillary.



Yeah you keep believing that
It all depends on who talks and how much, AND how much ammo that has been collected for the smoking gun
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:26 pm to
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there is no way that nothing can happen with this....this shite got real serious the last two days....the fibbie "heros" committed crimes that they can be executed for
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5752 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 6:30 pm to
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A prosecutor would not have to prove intent because it can be inferred from a finding of gross negligence.

Wrong.

That statute was written to explicitly remove intent as a standard for guilt (some accidents can still be criminal). That is why every knowledgeable person watching Comey's press conference were scratching their collective heads when he kept referencing a statute regarding treason which does include the standard of intent. He completely ignored the relevant statute that actually applied and cherry picked one that didnt........one that no serious person ever accused her of committing. This could not have been an honest mistake!!
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6670 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:14 pm to
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hreatened his assThis is the only thing that makes sense


Didn't his brother work for Clinton or someone close to them?
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8933 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:16 pm to
Comey didn't want to commit suicide with a knife to the chest.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 7:19 pm to
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Do we want the FBI, DOJ, IRS, etc... doing this kind of shite?
The left is perfectly fine with it. I think most eagerly support it.

Same thing with voter fraud.
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