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re: Fox poll claims 10% of republicans less likely to support since he’s been convicted.

Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Fox poll claims 10% of republicans less likely to support since he’s been convicted.


Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30689 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:43 pm to
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strong alpha to a weak beta

This characterization of Donald Trump as a "strong alpha" is completely false. Yea, sure he can be a schoolyard bully and talk trash, but when push comes to shove his crybaby persona reigns front and center. That's what I feel will happen during the June 27 debate; it'll be all bout himself and his "persecution" in a New York courtroom, and nothing about issues of substance.

He can seem dramatic and theatrical sounding, but in reality he's a hysterical wimp and the epitome of a beta male.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2062 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:03 pm to
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It's just not me. I'm affectionate with my own kids and my mom and bros/sisters, but I do not hug other kids or adults. That's just me.


I think you are right in that your normal disposition colors how you see it, and mine colors it the other way. The fact you lean right, and I lean left come into play as well. Unfortunately, so many things today are simply Rorschach tests for our preconceived notions which makes it very difficult to change hearts and minds. Perhaps it has always been this way, but social media and the prevalence of the 24 hour news cycle has simply exacerbated it. Good conversation though.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62578 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:25 pm to
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“Less likely” doesn’t mean “vote for Joe Biden”. Jfc people.
No alway man. You’re either get Trump, or you’re agin’t him.

It weird how Cult members seem to think that enthusiasm counts extra in the election. If you vote for Trump reluctantly it doesn’t count as much, so it’s the same as voting for Biden.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2740 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 10:39 pm to
"10% of Republicans not supporting Trump."

You support a lying corrupt pedo who shits himself.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 10:55 pm to
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A lot of people think (in my opinion correctly) that for a jury of 12 to unanimously convict someone on 34 counts there has to be at least somewhat convincing evidence of a crime.
No one gives a frick what you think, you retard.

You think Buttigig would be a great president.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25142 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 10:58 pm to
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Democrat city, democrat judge, democrat jury in one of the most liberal places on the entire planet. Add Matthew Colangelo from the Biden administration. It’s a complete sham and was only going 1 way. So predictable. You are so moral you would have you opponents jailed for political disagreements. Disgraceful, but you have no shame just like your party.


The democrats have morphed into Marxists of various stripes so they use communist means of repression against their opponents. Marxism doesn't have a First Amendment, they just have crimes against the their state.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25142 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 11:00 pm to
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Trump and his legal team hand picked six of the jurors.


In NYC, that's like picking 12 TDS suffering vipers for a jury. You know that, but don't want to admit it. Go back to DU where you belong.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 11:10 pm to
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Trump broke the law in NYC. Therefore, he should be tried in NYC. No doubt about it. Don't break the law and he doesn't have to worry where his case was tried. And make no mistake about it, Trump broke the law. Thus case was not about a political disagreement. Trump broke the law. That is why there was a case. You and I would have broken the law if we had done the same thing as Trump. We would have been charged, tried, and convicted. Just like Trump. So, my advice is: Be a good Christian. Don't lie, cheat, or steal and you have nothing to worry about.
You sir, are a fricking moron.

I bet you think Derek Chauvin got a fair trial in Minneapolis.

Retard.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 11:13 pm to
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If you don’t believe Democrats are capable of jailing a political opponent it’s too late for you. I hope they don’t come for you or your family.
No, I hope they do go after him and his family. He deserves it.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 11:16 pm to
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He's being indicted all over the place. It's hard to pinpoint a location as a problem when the indictments are that widespread.
And what do all of those prosecutions have in common?

Far left Soros prosecutors.

Once again, you’re a retard.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32982 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 11:22 pm to
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And the House was searching for ANYTHING to impeach Biden with. But even for a political impeachment you need some kind of evidence to bring charges forward. And they simply didn't have enough to do anything.
I guess you think the numerous shell companies Hunter and the Biden family were receiving millions from is just normal business practices. Or the checks from Biden’s brother to him (that they claim was a loan payback) days after receiving money from these companies is just coincidental. Or that a partner in the business, Tony Bobolinski testified to Congress that Joe was “the big guy” getting 10% of everything for selling access to the administration.

But none of that is evidence right?
This post was edited on 6/1/24 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52162 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:05 am to
This is all great, but how many are MORE likely to support now? I was a guy who was holding his nose to vote for Trump. Now I am a guy who is unreservedly supporting him and sending him thousands of dollars.

I have a good friend who is a Navy veteran who is flying the upside down flag now. He is majorly pissed off. There are a shite ton of people like us.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112568 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:15 am to
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Trump and his legal team hand picked six of the jurors.


bullshite. The denied change of venue motion means not a single juror was "picked" by the defense.

Also, there's a limited number of peremptory strikes (and you can still face Batson challenges) and this judge overruled countless "for cause" objections that should have been sustained.

Sure, there are retards that will accept "34 charges/counts" and choose the demented child molester instead, but people with a brain and critical thinking skills know otherwise.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:23 am to
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Are they polling bill Kristol and Lisa merkowski? No way 10% of registered republicans that would have voted walk away after this.


This is actually about 7% less than what the polls showed before the conviction.

Some of us keep telling y'all this. It really could keep him from winning.

I don't know why you're so hard headed about it.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10545 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:26 am to
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This is all great, but how many are MORE likely to support now? I was a guy who was holding his nose to vote for Trump.


The key admission is that you had already decided that you were going to vote for him.

The thing that polls don't tell you is specifically what the lay of the land is in key states. What I'm hoping is that these people polled represent people in states in which the contest is decided before it begins and they are just virtue signaling by refusing to vote for Trump now.

There's also the possibility that it's all virtue signaling and people just don't want to admit to the pollsters that they will vote for him. We saw that in 2016.

I have hope, but I'm certainly not highly confident.
Posted by B2BWWchamps
Jasper, FL
Member since Aug 2023
672 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:57 am to
agreed

intuition can often times be more impactful than facts or statistics

facts and statistics can lie depending on the host
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:59 am to
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Fox poll claims 10% of republicans less likely to support since he’s been convicted.
Therefore, they're voting for Biden... right?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38682 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:20 am to
Fox News believes the '20 election was legitimate; I reckon they believe that Hunter's Lap was Russian disinformation and that the 50 High Up Government security officials that signed the letter which pushed Biden to 'victory', was legitimate as well.

"Fox' as a fox guarding the chicken coop, is a perfect fit for their name. Albeit I suspect there is 10% who still ignores the effect of Hunter's Laptop as such relates to Biden's electoral legitimacy.

We know it's rigged, just like Trump's prosecution. The only question to be answered is when push comes to the Authoritarian Left's shove, what happens then. Fascists/Commies know that it always comes down to "the barrel of a gun", and that is why they imported millions of seasoned Marxist and Islamist warriors who hate the USA.

It's coming. Sooner than many believe or even dare to imagine or admit.

This war is Spiritual and goes to the very essence of Humanities' Soul. It is to DEFINE the ultimate Value and criteria upon which all Human action will be based. Such Value being Love, IMO, and further that of all who soldier on in said war. The Truth and Vision that will be the basis for a long-hoped for, utopian "kingdom of heaven on Earth" will indeed likely "come down in the clouds" of nuclear calamity. And our final lesson will be that we cannot overcome our innate ('sinful') fatal flaw and limitations minus acquiescing to the delegated and saving power of Jesus Christ. Jesus being the 'Human' (Self Aware) aspect of the eternal and unlimited Self Aware Energy that is the Basis for all that is or can be.

Lord have mercy on them who worship Love, in the painful process of our coming 'education'.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17694 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 8:21 am to
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