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re: Found the reason why crime is down in the US
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:11 am to Breaux
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:11 am to Breaux
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There's so many other things to go after with this administration for, you don't have to make shite up by pretending this is a Biden change.
I see comprehension lacking so much on this website.
The date that this process started to change (2015) is irrelevant.
Are we in 2015? No?
Is this admin using tainted and misrepresented data in 2024 to paint a narrative that crime is down? Yes or no?
The answer is yes.
So when the title of this thread states “Found the reason why crime is down in the US”, that is not disingenuous like you’re saying. It is correct.
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:17 am to JackieTreehorn
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Does the fbi have any redeemable qualities at all? I’d rather flush them down the shite hole permanently.
You publicly wish for that, and nothing happens. Anyone in a position of influence publicly wishes for that, and suddenly we see plots to kidnap a governor, federal buildings blown up, mass shootings.
Funny how that is.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:18 am to HailToTheChiz
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Can't have crime if you don't report crime
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:20 am to trinidadtiger
You do realize that the data that isn't reported isn't give a 0 or anything, right?
And you can go to these localized jurisdictions and look at their data, and it is following similar trends more often than not, right?
And you can go to these localized jurisdictions and look at their data, and it is following similar trends more often than not, right?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:23 am to theballguy
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The media says its down because the incumbent is a Democrat. That would be your most likely answer.
Crime has been falling since the early-mid 90s and continued to do so until Covid caused negative externalities.
Now that the "Covid bump" is over, it's going back down to where it was pre-Covid.
This has crossed multiple Democrat and Republican admins. It is in no way related to any partisan status or policy.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:25 am to trinidadtiger
LINK?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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Covid caused negative externalities.
Externalities ?!? Just come out and say it. Allowing every drug addled skank and hood rat MFer in the inner city to wear a ski mask all day will cause a massive spike in strong arm robberies. Who would have seen that coming ?!
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 9:37 am
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:31 am to trinidadtiger
“They” will have every department correctly reporting data once Trump is in office.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:36 am to reggierayreb
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Externalities ?!? Just some out and say it. Allowing every drug addled skank and hood rat MFer in the inner city to wear a ski mask all day will cause a massive spike in strong arm robberies. Who would have seen that coming ?!
It's a lot more than that.
There were major spikes in juvenile crime b/c there were no schools.
General malaise and economic uncertainty for people will cause crime to increase (why we see higher crime in lower SES areas generally)
People were kept inside and away from others and domestic violence skyrocketed, because abusers had less worry about getting caught
Also the combination of the post-George Floyd riots and bad policy in response didn't help
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:36 am to jrodLSUke
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“They” will have every department correctly reporting data once Trump is in office.
Unless some major event occurs, crime is going to continue to go down under Trump
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:39 am to trinidadtiger
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Thats not moving the goal posts, thats changing the entire stadium.
Big city police cheifs do this all the time.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:51 am to trinidadtiger
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This means a quarter of the U.S. population wasn't represented in the federal crime data last year, according to The Marshall Project’s analysis.
Bongino reported this on his podcast several months ago. Examples of cities not reporting include New York and Chicago - sure it's just a coincidence.
It's hilarious that this board's self-appointed "attorney" (LOL) proffers the leftist fake news lie that violent crime is going down. Reported violent crime is down as a political stunt.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:56 am to trinidadtiger
Same thing Biden's administration did with the formula to calculate inflation.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:02 am to Breaux
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There's so many other things to go after with this administration for, you don't have to make shite up by pretending this is a Biden change.
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scathing new report from the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG) has found that the FBI has repeatedly failed to comply with its own policies and federal laws regarding the handling of tips on child sexual abuse.
The audit, which follows up on the infamous mishandling of allegations against former USA Gymnastics physician Lawrence Nassar, uncovered significant gaps in the bureau's response to serious allegations involving suspected child abuse.
The audit, covering the period between October 2021 and February 2023, scrutinized 327 incidents of alleged hands-on sex offenses against children and found that the FBI has been non-compliant in key areas, including mandatory reporting, victim services, and timely responses to ongoing abuse. Particularly concerning is the revelation that 13% of the reviewed cases were flagged for immediate attention due to substantial deficiencies that could have left children in harm's way.
"We found the FBI does not document and process all incoming tips and allegations within Guardian and 40 percent of the incidents we reviewed did not include evidence that the FBI responded to an allegation involving active or ongoing child sexual abuse within 24 hours as required by FBI guidance," reads the report.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:03 am to roadkill
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Examples of cities not reporting include New York and Chicago - sure it's just a coincidence.
NYC
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New York City saw continued reductions in overall crime through the first quarter of 2024, both above ground, on streets throughout the five boroughs, and below ground, within the nation’s largest subway system. The single month of March 2024, compared to the same month last year, experienced even more drastic crime declines.
Overall crime in the transit system plummeted 23.5 percent in March, an achievement directly attributable to the 1,000 additional uniformed NYPD officers surged into the network each day. Another 800 NYPD officers were also recently deployed as part of “Operation Fare Play,” an initiative focused on enforcing fare evasion. The year-over-year crime decrease was led by double-digit percentage drops in major categories: Robbery was reduced 51.9 percent (26 vs. 54), grand larceny decreased 15.2 percent (89 vs. 105), and felony assault dropped 10.9 percent (49 vs. 55). From January 1 through March 31, 2024, overall crime in the transit system was down 1.1 percent (538 vs. 544), compared to the first quarter of 2023.
NYC 2023
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Murder, burglary, and the obstinate category of grand larceny-auto each saw sizeable reductions across New York City in December 2023 compared to the same month in 2022, adding to continued overall reductions in five of the seven major index-crime categories for the entire year. Shooting incidents decreased by double-digit percentages for the month and the year, as well, claiming 416 fewer victims over the course of 2023 – the fourth-lowest number of shooting victims in New York City in more than three decades. Overall index crime dropped by 409 incidents, or 0.3% (126678 vs. 127087) citywide, compared to last year.
Chicago 2023
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Shootings and homicides recorded in Chicago fell by 13% in 2023 as violence rates returned to pre-pandemic levels, but the number of people killed last year was still among the city’s highest over the past two decades.
There were 617 homicides and 2,450 shootings across Chicago throughout 2023, according to Chicago Police Department data, with both totals hitting their lowest levels since 2019. While homicides and shootings decreased, other crimes like robbery, theft and criminal sexual assault saw increases in 2023.
Chicago 2024
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Chicagoans experienced 7.8% more violent crime from June 2023 through May 2024 than during the previous 12 months, with cases of robbery driving most of the surge.
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Overall, robberies were the most common violent crime, accounting for over 37% of all reported incidents. Batteries and assaults comprised an additional 54% of cases.
Homicides down. Robberies up
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:05 am to Breaux
quote:So why not explain it that way rather than claiming crime is down? I think you know......
Yes, the way crime is being reported changed and there are large departments who have not yet transitioned to it. I think you know that though if you found the one paragraph that fits your agenda.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:09 am to trinidadtiger
Link to this? I’d like to read and share later.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:16 am to Diamondawg
I’m not disputing that at all, they are absolutely using the data presented.
The next admin will do the same regardless of who wins. However, when Trump wins this will be used positively here.
The next admin will do the same regardless of who wins. However, when Trump wins this will be used positively here.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:20 am to Breaux
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pretending this is a Biden change.
Hmmm, 2015, who was prez and vp?
Hmmmm, 2021, who was prez and vp?
It’s an Obama change
Biden IS the Obama administration
Harris WOULD BE the Obama administration.
Get you fat head out of your arse.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:21 am to trinidadtiger
There’s a decades long tradition, especially during election years, for agencies to either under report or just refuse to report altogether as well as the compilation associated not being complete.
Agency Level:
If under reporting is not enough simply don’t report at all. (Gotta hit those incentives,$)
Federal Level:
If the reports are bad simply don’t finish the bookkeeping.
Both sides have done their fair share of it. But it IS aggegious every time to see it. Also illustrates the lack of independent journalism that it’s rarely called out and only by the (controlled) opposition when it’s Federal.
Agency Level:
If under reporting is not enough simply don’t report at all. (Gotta hit those incentives,$)
Federal Level:
If the reports are bad simply don’t finish the bookkeeping.
Both sides have done their fair share of it. But it IS aggegious every time to see it. Also illustrates the lack of independent journalism that it’s rarely called out and only by the (controlled) opposition when it’s Federal.
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