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re: Former Vice President Mike Pence explains why he sold out!
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:46 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:46 pm to Seldom Seen
This is why I hate politicians. They use a roundabout way to answer.
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:48 pm to frankenfish
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this is exactly what Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are investigating
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:49 pm to Tigers0918
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is a shame that so many Republicans want to end our democracy and install a dictator just because they like him more than the other guy.
Haha, remember when y’all said the military would have to drag him out because he’s Hitler?
Except the dems stole the election, surrounded themselves by the military, even put up a wall. And have started to force medical experiments on the masses. They also want to ban speech that doesn’t agree with them.
Then we would have had another election in 2028 and Trump wouldn’t be running. Just like every one before him.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 11/2/21 at 6:50 pm to Seldom Seen
How is sending the electoral votes back to the states and telling them to investigate their own fraud not abiding by the constitution?
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:13 pm to hogcard1964
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He's a coward
You misspelled “traitor to the Constitution.”
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:24 pm to Seldom Seen
Pence is a sellout and a huge dick.
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:54 pm to Ag Zwin
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What is the rebuttal to this?
The Electoral Count Act, Section 17 allows for objections to “the counting of any electoral vote or votes from any State or other question arising from the matter."
Pence had to receive all objections properly raised, and without argument for or against the objections. He had to demand the evidence. The Electoral Count Act allows each house two hours to debate the merits of each objection. Two hours is not enough time to present and debate evidence, and both houses must operate on the same set of facts.
Eleven Republican senators said that they would not vote without having an emergency ten-day commission to consider all the evidence. However, the Electoral Count Act only allows a five-day limit on the entire process.
Due process requires the evidence to be heard before members vote on the objections.
Pence’s responsibility was to see that the presentation of the evidence and the votes took place within that five-day period.
Did Pence demand due process?
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:57 pm to Colonel Flagg
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stand up to evil. The problem is he is part of the corrupt system.
The elections were corrupted at the state level (orchestrated at a national/multi-state level). He then certified the corruption to lock it in. He let the people behind the corruption take office and cover it all back up. There is nothing honorable or right out of that situation. To hide behind the constitution is despicable. He knows damn well the people that wrote the constitution wouldn’t have stood for that.
Well spoken.
The Framers ABHORRED Democracy (pure version); that is why they codified that Rights come from God, and not a Majority Vote. It is utterly ludicrous to believe that if a majority of Nazis vote to implement their evil policy, the minority just jumps in...like Pence...for 'Democracy'.
This ship has sailed. It will be Authoritarian Governance, with one Side or the Other holding power, while the loser revolts 'insurrectionist style'. Either Constitutional Principle (God-given Rights) Citizens stand down to Democratic Rule (that conflicts or denies God-given Rights) or they stand against it. Obvious that such a 'Stand' would not be at the Polls.
Muh Democracy. Pence is no patriot. Nor are those who ignorantly or misguidedly champion the lunacy of unfettered Democracy, regardless of policy concerns. Marxist Policy at the fore; Transnational Progressive version.
Geez. There is some serious education to be had in this Nation. Hard way, I suspect. What else is new in the historical record.
Posted on 11/2/21 at 7:57 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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A bunch of states asked that the vote be sent back down to their legislature because of massive evidence of voter fraud and they wanted to make sure it got sorted out.
Which of these states failed to certify the results sent to fedgov?
Which of these states decertified their results?
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:16 am to Ag Zwin
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The Constitution is very clear that elections are to be governed at the state level. The Founders actually made that decision at the Constitutional Convention. And the only role of the federal government was to open and count the electoral votes that were sent by the states.
What is the rebuttal to this?
None. Well one, but it cuts against your argument. Elections are run by the state expressly subject to Congressional regulation.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 6:21 am
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:20 am to Seldom Seen
Our founding fathers would have done exactly opposite of what you did, Cuck.
A war would have started instead of bending over for treasonous opposition.
A war would have started instead of bending over for treasonous opposition.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:28 am to Seldom Seen
Sellout Loser. Needs to GTFO
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:35 am to Tigers0918
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Burden of proof is on the accusor.
Those validating elections also assume the burden to demonstrate the fidelity of their elections.
They failed, e.g., AZ.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 6:41 am to Tigers0918
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So freaking sad for our country. Trump loses an election and tries to steal it to stay in power. This is how dictators are formed and so many here sadly want this.
It is a shame that so many Republicans want to end our democracy and install a dictator just because they like him more than the other guy.
Haha, now that's funny. Needed a good laugh this morning. Thanks!
Posted on 11/3/21 at 7:11 am to Bunk Moreland
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What was he supposed to do?
Not sure of how it would have come out, but allowing a Banana Republic to take over the USA, which is what he did, should never be the answer
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:10 pm to Tigers0918
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So freaking sad for our country. Trump loses an election and tries to steal it to stay in power. This is how dictators are formed and so many here sadly want this.
It is a shame that so many Republicans want to end our democracy and install a dictator just because they like him more than the other guy.
I'll tell you what we should do.
Let's sink all bipartisan resources into completely transparent investigations into Jan 6 and the 2020 Election.
See how that comes out. Something tells me you don't want to do that.
This post was edited on 11/3/21 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:37 pm to Wednesday
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All he needed to do was call for a damn discussion.
He didn’t bc somehow he thinks that he’s going to run for President, and some bullshite GOPe advisor told him that it was career suicide to side with trump.
It was bad advice, and a bad move.
He should have kept his word.
They would have had some floor debates, made some speeches and we still would have installed Xiden.
It was utter cowardice.
Wednesday, you bring the heat like few others on this board. Thank You.
Posted on 11/3/21 at 12:51 pm to Seldom Seen
A modern day Benedict Arnold. The only way that he will ever win an elected position is to run on the Democrat ticket which he is an honary life time member.
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