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re: Former Pfizer exec estimates up to 60,000 deaths from COVID shot in Germany
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:33 pm to OccamsStubble
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:33 pm to OccamsStubble
The folks that fell for the jabs cannot admit they were duped.
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think your earlier point re: OP's expert was on the right track. There are lots of kinds of expertise and having one doesn't make you an expert on all.
The legal Daubert standard is a good practical version of this idea. A judge doesn't treat all experts the same in all situations and we shouldn't either.
The legal Daubert standard is a good practical version of this idea. A judge doesn't treat all experts the same in all situations and we shouldn't either.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 4/15/26 at 2:41 pm to atlgamecockman
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Germans. Guy left the company in 2007. Is a known quack.
So your saying that 1) this guy WAS a pfizer exec and 2) he is a quack?
So we have quacks running pharmaceutical companies and you think that is the end of the thread? Are you retarded?
Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:11 pm to notsince98
I think he was trying to summarize the gist of the previous thread, but didn't compress it quite right. Still, I think there’s an important space between “quack” & “credentials, therefore credible”.
Someone can have real credentials and still be:
-speaking a bit outside their lane
-making a rough estimate instead of working from solid data or
-just be an outlier compared to others in the field
That’s probably the part worth looking at, more than trying to label the guy.
Someone can have real credentials and still be:
-speaking a bit outside their lane
-making a rough estimate instead of working from solid data or
-just be an outlier compared to others in the field
That’s probably the part worth looking at, more than trying to label the guy.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 3:23 pm to Night Vision
The site you posted is:
So now Catholics are good?
quote:
The site is a conservative Catholic publication that focuses intensely on opposing abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, and certain Vatican policies.
So now Catholics are good?
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:45 pm to BarnHater
quote:
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Citing credentials as an appeal to authority is a common fallacy used by online conspiracy theorists.
...you just questioned his credentials.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:58 pm to TigerDoc
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What’s the actual basis for the 60,000 number?
That’s easy
Take 2000 “suspected reported” deaths
Multiply that by 30, due to underreporting
That gives you 60,000 confirmed deaths
Duh
Posted on 4/15/26 at 4:59 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Yeah, lesson there was always read all of OP before mouthing off.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:02 pm to Night Vision
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His estimate is based on around 2,000 reported suspected deaths following vaccination with Comirnaty. He argues that multiplying this by a factor of 30 is a realistic standard for accounting for underreporting of all medication side effects.
From ChatGPT
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The central problem is that the 2,133 figure is not 2,133 proven vaccine-caused deaths. Germany’s Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (PEI), the federal vaccine regulator, says its database contains suspected adverse-event reports submitted after vaccination, and that spontaneous reports are not suitable for determining whether the reported reaction was caused by vaccination or how often it truly occurs. PEI also states that a serious event “does not necessarily have to be causally related” to vaccination. PEI’s 2025 pharmacovigilance report shows that, through December 31, 2024, Germany had administered more than 197 million COVID-19 vaccine doses and received 3,086 directly reported suspected cases with a fatal outcome across all COVID vaccines, of which 2,133 were tied to Comirnaty reports. But PEI’s causality review found only 74 total fatal reports across all COVID vaccines were “consistent” with a possible or probable causal relationship, including 28 with Comirnaty. It also said no new safety signals had been identified and that the safety profile remained consistent with prior knowledge.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:04 pm to moneyg
I think those are actually two different moves.
“He has credentials, so he’s right” = appeal to authority
“Are his credentials relevant to this specific claim?” = evaluating expertise
You kind of have to do the second one if you’re going to sort through disagreeing experts at all.
“He has credentials, so he’s right” = appeal to authority
“Are his credentials relevant to this specific claim?” = evaluating expertise
You kind of have to do the second one if you’re going to sort through disagreeing experts at all.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:11 pm to Penrod
I was trying to get at something like that earlier regarding how the number is built. If the starting point is “reported after vaccination” rather than confirmed causes, then multiplying it to estimate deaths is going to overshoot by a lot. That seems like the key step everything hinges on.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:34 pm to BarnHater
It was the Trump administration who created Operation Warp Speed to FastTrack development and distribution of the Covid vaccine. This launched in May of 2020.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 5:51 pm to Night Vision
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Do you dispute his credentials?
I dispute them.
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Dr. med. vet. Helmut Sterz (born 1946) began his scientific career after studying veterinary medicine in 1971 with a doctorate in virology, which was awarded a prize by Justus Liebig University in Giessen. Over the course of his career as a toxicologist in the pharmaceutical industry, he published numerous scientific articles. From 1974 to 1988, he headed the Department of Reproductive Toxicology at Boehringer Mannheim, improving techniques for assessing toxicity in pregnant laboratory animals and their offspring. Research teams at Heidelberg University adopted his methods, and international regulatory authorities approved their use for detecting side effects of new drugs. Since 1981, he has been a certified specialist veterinarian in pharmacology and toxicology. From 1988 to 1995, he headed the Toxicology Center of Servier in Orléans, France, where he introduced alternative animal models to better assess the risk of side effects of new molecules in humans. From 1995 to 2001, he led the Toxicology Center in Basel and ultimately the entire preclinical toxicology division of F. Hoffmann-La Roche. In 2001, Pfizer appointed him head of its two European toxicology centers in Amboise (France) and Sandwich (UK). In 2007, following the closure of the Amboise laboratory, he left the company and retired.
He has never practiced medicine on human beings and was not working for Pfzer during during Covid so he does not have access to inside data.
This post was edited on 4/15/26 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:25 pm to Night Vision
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The man's credentials speak for themselves.
Yes, they speak of a man who shouldn't speak about human medicine. Glad you agree.
Posted on 4/15/26 at 6:31 pm to Night Vision
This is "great" fuel for confirmation bias . Idiots
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