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re: Former Pfizer exec estimates up to 60,000 deaths from COVID shot in Germany

Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

What’s the actual basis for the 60,000 number? Is it excess mortality, reporting system data, or something else?


Considering the source, Tiger blood?
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:15 pm to
His qualifications stand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476662 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:16 pm to
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His qualifications stand.


If he starts opining about the excess deaths of dogs from CV19, perhaps
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:16 pm to
You are welcome to look into it further.

I don't care if you believe it or not.

The man's credentials speak for themselves.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:17 pm to
I think the key question here is whether those 2,000 reports are confirmed to be caused by the vaccine, or just events that happened after vaccination.

The underreporting multipliers are usually about confirmed side effects - not raw reports - so that seems like a pretty important distinction.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13629 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Germans. Guy left the company in 2007. Is a known quack. Stop reading bias confirming sources.

/thread


"NUH UH!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! TRUST THE EXPERTS!!!! MUH TRUST THE "SCIENCE!!!!!" ANTIVAXXERS!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! NO PROOF!!!!"

- atlgamecocksucker
Posted by Boss13
Mobile
Member since Oct 2016
2106 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:18 pm to
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What country were you in?


USA

I see what you're getting at though and I corrected it. I got the vaccine in late 2021 not 2020. I corrected this in my post.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13629 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:18 pm to
Pfizer Papers. Look into them. Dumb arse.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13629 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:20 pm to
quote:


quote:
Do you dispute his credentials?


Citing credentials as an appeal to authority is a common fallacy used by online conspiracy theorists.

Which is why a rational and intelligent person begins to engage in actual "just asking questions"


You are such a f@ggot.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:20 pm to
The sticking point isn’t whether the guy has credentials - Tony Fauci has credentials and no one here trusts him - it’s whether you can multiply “reported after vaccination” events as if they were confirmed causes.

If that step doesn’t work, the estimate doesn’t either.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:20 pm to
Everyone knows he's a moron that just wants to argue.

More on the subject
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:21 pm to
I guess it must be fake, because atlgamecockman said so.
Posted by geoag58
Member since Nov 2011
2122 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

Do you dispute his credentials?


Don't worry, by the end of this thread, SFP will tell us we are all dumb and he is an expert on all things viral toxicity.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

"NUH UH!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! TRUST THE EXPERTS!!!! MUH TRUST THE "SCIENCE!!!!!" ANTIVAXXERS!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

I mean, this is exactly what the OP is doing with this alleged "expert".
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
21954 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:25 pm to
I don't pay any attention to that retard 99.9% of the time.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75137 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Don't worry, by the end of this thread, SFP will tell us we are all dumb and he is an expert on all things viral toxicity.

He doesn't have to do that. Most of you do a good job proving that on your own.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476662 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:27 pm to
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I mean, this is exactly what the OP is doing with this alleged "expert".


The emotional types will never learn.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:29 pm to
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I mean, this is exactly what the OP is doing with this alleged "expert".


This is a good time to point to the larger problem for us on the board - we have disagreeing experts who have technical expertise that we ourselves lack (if we had the expertise we could assess the matter ourselves).

It seems we have to choose - how are we supposed to choose between them?

Legit question for anyone who wants to have a go.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476662 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:31 pm to
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It seems we have to choose - how are we supposed to choose between them?


This largely becomes a test of intelligence and bias along those two axes.

This is why the stratification in the world is expanding as the DKE explodes
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10082 posts
Posted on 4/15/26 at 1:31 pm to
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People that want to believe this will.


This guy was a believer.



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