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re: Foreign-Born Judge Controls Trump’s National Security Powers

Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:18 am to
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
3352 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:18 am to
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Show me the law that says POTUS can’t revoke a security clearance for any reason he sees fit please.


Having had a clearance for 40 plus years, you are correct. The president is the soul arbitrator of what is classified and who has access to it. Of course, that authority is delegated for simplicity, but at the end of the day POTUS can declassify and revoke access as he sees fit. frick any judge that thinks different.
This post was edited on 12/25/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:19 am to
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Born in Ontario. One of them scary Canucks.
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Still not an American

Except that he IS a US citizen. He was naturalized years ago.
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If you can’t see a problem with that, Hank, your TDS has you farther gone than I thought.
Trump is irrelevant to the (silly-assed) assertion that this judge is not a US citizen.

Now, if you want to debate the question of creating a second (and lower) class of citizenship for US citizens who are naturalized rather than native-born, I suppose you can do that. It is a disgusting notion, but feel free to make the argument.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:21 am to
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Having had a clearance for 40 plus years, you are correct. The president is the soul arbitrator of what is classified and who has access to it. Of course, that authority is delegated for simplicity, but at the end of the day put us can declassify and revoke access as he sees fit. frick any judge that thinks different.
You are mistaken. See the citations above. Even regarding classification/clearance, POTUS is bound by the US Constitution.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:21 am to
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No, just the JUDICIAL power to require the Executive to follow the law in its actions.

So he ruled Trump's order stands but made Trump promise to dot I's and cross T's going forward?
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17580 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:21 am to
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In the US Constitution and our system of laws? Abso-fricking-lutely.

Funny… I bet the word “constitution” never came out of your mouth during the Biden admin.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:23 am to
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So he ruled Trump's order stands but made Trump promise to dot I's and cross T's going forward?
No. Explaind above. In short, SURPRISE, even Donald Trump is bound by the US Constitution. I know that just kills you.
This post was edited on 12/25/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:30 am to
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I know that just kills you.

You don't know much.

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Explaind above. In short, SURPRISE, even Donald Trump is bound by the US Constitution.

And federal judges have never overstepped their authority?

Could it be you're more a judiciary cultist than I am a Trumpian?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:30 am to
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PedoHank defending leftist judges on Christmas Day

No one is surprised


I don't know if it's Hank, but he makes up conversations in threads between his alters as well.

Relentless and Retired tiger or that other troll that showed up in October.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7432 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:33 am to
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A non Citizen Federal Judge


Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:34 am to
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And federal judges have never overstepped their authority? Could it be you're more a judiciary cultist than I am a Trumpian?
Sure they have. But here is the thing. There are safeguards in the Judicial Branch, in the form of higher courts. By contrasts, there are few (if any) such safeguards within the Executive Branch. The only effective check on abuse by the Executive IS the Judiciary.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42270 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:36 am to
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I was making a very general observation about how these cases normally arise. I’ve not read this specific opinion, and I do not plan to do so, because it simply doesn’t interest me that much.


Probably because it shits all over your moronic deflections.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:37 am to
When the Libs of TikTok stuck to reposting stupid posts by Libs, it was harmless and entertaining.

For the last few years, it has become a source of affirmative disinformation, such as the implication that this judge is not a US citizen ("foreigner judge").
Posted by Louisianalabguy
Member since Jul 2017
1611 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:37 am to
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While the merits of any individual security clearance decision are unreviewable

Thanks, you answered your own argument!
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:38 am to
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While the merits of any individual security clearance decision are unreviewable
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Thanks, you answered your own argument!

Were you dropped on your head as an infant ... repeatedly?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107252 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:39 am to
Ignore the ruling. Deport the judge.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14429 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:42 am to
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if your not a natural born citizen of the US you should not be a able to run for any office oeriod


Constitution says otherwise. Only office of president must be American born
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:42 am to
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Sure they have. But here is the thing. There are safeguards in the Judicial Branch, in the form of higher courts. By contrasts, there are few (if any) such safeguards within the Executive Branch. The only effective check on abuse by the Executive IS the Judiciary.

So? Safeguards against procedural error or missteps?

You're arguing a federal bench can usurp executive authority on a national security matter because of lack of procedural adherence, and if I'm not mistaken the procedure isn't codified but simply precedence. And you're arguing that's constitutional and there's no other option. That sounds kind of cultish.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2187 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:43 am to
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if your not a natural born citizen of the US you should not be a able to run for any office oeriod
Constitution says otherwise. Only office of president must be American born
The Constitution is not an important variable in any analysis conducted by a Trumpist.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48132 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 11:50 am to
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The idea that Trump can exercise his Constitutional authority only by following the procedures of Congress and the courts is retarded.


The democult wants any conservative POTUS to conduct policy at the speed of a deadlocked congress and a prejudiced judicial branch. Everything they do is to toss sand into the gearbox so they can campaign on "NOTHING GOT ACCOMPLISHED!!" in the midterm congressional election.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24147 posts
Posted on 12/25/25 at 12:06 pm to
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The only effective check on abuse by the Executive IS the Judiciary.


Why are lawyers so terrible at civics?
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