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re: For the people who want to seize and redistribute wealth from billionaires and ….
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:59 pm to rltiger
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:59 pm to rltiger
quote:Even granting them their silly want, the takeaway is obvious: barely a dent made in the national debt.
one Trillionaire, please explain how this would not be a diaster.
Here are the possible top 10 in the US….
1.Elon Musk: $1.2 trillion (Tesla, SpaceX)
2.Larry Ellison: $276 billion (Oracle)
3.Mark Zuckerberg: $253 billion (Meta)
4.Jeff Bezos: $241 billion (Amazon)
5.Larry Page: $230 billion (Google)
6.Sergey Brin: $280 billion (Google)
7.Jensen Huang: $180 billion (NVIDIA)
8.Warren Buffett: $150 billion (Berkshire Hathaway)
9.Michael Dell: $150 billion (Dell Technologies)
10.Steve Ballmer: $145 billion (Microsoft
Almost all are tech related, and all the wealth is in stock values.
Do you take their stock away or tax them so they have to sell stock to get below a certain amount? Now these people are no longer controlling their companies and making the decisions that have made their companies successful.
Where do the liquidated assets go? It would be a one time money grab and crash the stock market. Enlighten me on the actions that you would take to accomplish this. These people would probably take their assets to friendlier lands overnight.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:03 pm to rltiger
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Do you take their stock away or tax them so they have to sell stock to get below a certain amount?
Cap gains taxes are how you get homeless "millionaires" who have to sell assets just so they can pay their taxes.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:10 pm to rltiger
They don't care so much about distributing the wealth as they do taking it away from someone. It's their classic play of lowering the standards so everyone can pass.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:33 pm to Yokelhoma
quote:Well, that would entail laws about lobbying on the political side. Because, God willing, there will always be wealth. Whether that wealth comes in the form of a publicly owned company or an individual source doesn't really matter. The influence, or potential influence, is the same.
To me it matters less how much wealth has so long as that wealth can't be used to basically buy our government.
The problem is it currently exists, is someone like John Thune wields significant power. Yet he himself is not particularly wealthy. At the same time, he is having to maintain two households, one in Dakota and one in DC. He is included in circles of tremendous wealth in DC, and circulating in those social groups requires significant expense. Assuming he had to pay, he would be bankrupt in a week. But he doesn't have to pay.
He is instead invited as a guest on the dime of wealthy patrons or PACs. DC politicians view such things as a "perk." They falsely claim that such socialization has no effect on their politics. Watching Thune's political behavior tells a completely different story. It is fairly obvious to anyone watching that the man is owned by lobbying interests.
The solution would be to pay politicians in DC far more in salary, and concomitantly subject them to rules, such as those imposed on physicians accepting perks from pharmaceutical and medical equipment representatives in the private sector. No lobbying perks whatsoever. Investments/holdings would be placed in a blind trust. Penalties for breach would include expulsion from Congress.
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:37 pm to Undertow
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.

Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:39 pm to medium_okra
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Dems equate it to a zero-sum game. For example, since Elon is "worth" $1.2T, that means he took $1 from 1.2 Trillion people.
Completely skipping over the fact that wealth is not finite.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:53 pm to jp4lsu
40 trillion and soaring over 2.3+ trillion per year.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:55 pm to medium_okra
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Dems equate it to a zero-sum game. For example, since Elon is "worth" $1.2T, that means he took $1 from 1.2 Trillion people.
This^^^^ right here.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:58 pm to SlidellCajun
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Taxing people on their income or wealth is intrinsically immoral. It’s theft
Perhaps, but getting immensely wealthy with government subsidies and contracts is sort of immoral as well. Must be a fair playing field.
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:27 am to SnacknGold06
Who’s getting immensely wealthy on government subsidies?
As for contracts, if the government wants to dole out contracts for work and the bidding process is fair then I have no problem with it.
As for contracts, if the government wants to dole out contracts for work and the bidding process is fair then I have no problem with it.
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:36 am to rltiger
The people who argue for this type of thing are economically illiterate and hopelessly poor. I once argued with one on another board who said it would stimulate the economy more if the government wrote everyone a stimulus check of $75 rather than reduced income tax rates by a few percentage points. Their reasoning: "If people had a free extra $75 they could actually spend it on something like a video game, but they aren't even really going to notice a difference if their income tax is reduced."
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:39 am to Undertow
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.
How many people does this list employ?
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:44 am to rltiger
The left is fundamentally against capitalism. They believe that it’s a zero sum game. They believe that if you have a dollar, someone else loses a dollar. In some cases that’s true but not always and that’s just the way capitalism works sometimes. It ain’t perfect but it’s the best system there is.
And for them to think that a government taking your money is somehow “fair”, is comical. Why would it be okay for a government to take my money?
And for them to think that a government taking your money is somehow “fair”, is comical. Why would it be okay for a government to take my money?
Posted on 6/23/26 at 11:51 am to Undertow
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.
You just described the lefts voter base especially the 13%ers…
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