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Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
40159 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 12:59 pm to
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one Trillionaire, please explain how this would not be a diaster.

Here are the possible top 10 in the US….

1.Elon Musk: $1.2 trillion (Tesla, SpaceX)
2.Larry Ellison: $276 billion (Oracle)
3.Mark Zuckerberg: $253 billion (Meta)
4.Jeff Bezos: $241 billion (Amazon)
5.Larry Page: $230 billion (Google)
6.Sergey Brin: $280 billion (Google)
7.Jensen Huang: $180 billion (NVIDIA)
8.Warren Buffett: $150 billion (Berkshire Hathaway)
9.Michael Dell: $150 billion (Dell Technologies)
10.Steve Ballmer: $145 billion (Microsoft

Almost all are tech related, and all the wealth is in stock values.
Do you take their stock away or tax them so they have to sell stock to get below a certain amount? Now these people are no longer controlling their companies and making the decisions that have made their companies successful.
Where do the liquidated assets go? It would be a one time money grab and crash the stock market. Enlighten me on the actions that you would take to accomplish this. These people would probably take their assets to friendlier lands overnight.
Even granting them their silly want, the takeaway is obvious: barely a dent made in the national debt.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
67542 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Do you take their stock away or tax them so they have to sell stock to get below a certain amount?


Cap gains taxes are how you get homeless "millionaires" who have to sell assets just so they can pay their taxes.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
2260 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:10 pm to
They don't care so much about distributing the wealth as they do taking it away from someone. It's their classic play of lowering the standards so everyone can pass.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140758 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:33 pm to
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To me it matters less how much wealth has so long as that wealth can't be used to basically buy our government.
Well, that would entail laws about lobbying on the political side. Because, God willing, there will always be wealth. Whether that wealth comes in the form of a publicly owned company or an individual source doesn't really matter. The influence, or potential influence, is the same.

The problem is it currently exists, is someone like John Thune wields significant power. Yet he himself is not particularly wealthy. At the same time, he is having to maintain two households, one in Dakota and one in DC. He is included in circles of tremendous wealth in DC, and circulating in those social groups requires significant expense. Assuming he had to pay, he would be bankrupt in a week. But he doesn't have to pay.

He is instead invited as a guest on the dime of wealthy patrons or PACs. DC politicians view such things as a "perk." They falsely claim that such socialization has no effect on their politics. Watching Thune's political behavior tells a completely different story. It is fairly obvious to anyone watching that the man is owned by lobbying interests.

The solution would be to pay politicians in DC far more in salary, and concomitantly subject them to rules, such as those imposed on physicians accepting perks from pharmaceutical and medical equipment representatives in the private sector. No lobbying perks whatsoever. Investments/holdings would be placed in a blind trust. Penalties for breach would include expulsion from Congress.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89747 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:37 pm to
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89747 posts
Posted on 6/16/26 at 1:39 pm to
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Dems equate it to a zero-sum game. For example, since Elon is "worth" $1.2T, that means he took $1 from 1.2 Trillion people.


Completely skipping over the fact that wealth is not finite.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21063 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:53 pm to
40 trillion and soaring over 2.3+ trillion per year.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56588 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Dems equate it to a zero-sum game. For example, since Elon is "worth" $1.2T, that means he took $1 from 1.2 Trillion people.


This^^^^ right here.
Posted by SnacknGold06
Member since Oct 2025
182 posts
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:58 pm to
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Taxing people on their income or wealth is intrinsically immoral. It’s theft


Perhaps, but getting immensely wealthy with government subsidies and contracts is sort of immoral as well. Must be a fair playing field.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16844 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:27 am to
Who’s getting immensely wealthy on government subsidies?


As for contracts, if the government wants to dole out contracts for work and the bidding process is fair then I have no problem with it.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15892 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:36 am to
The people who argue for this type of thing are economically illiterate and hopelessly poor. I once argued with one on another board who said it would stimulate the economy more if the government wrote everyone a stimulus check of $75 rather than reduced income tax rates by a few percentage points. Their reasoning: "If people had a free extra $75 they could actually spend it on something like a video game, but they aren't even really going to notice a difference if their income tax is reduced."
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27451 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:39 am to
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.


How many people does this list employ?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16844 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:44 am to
The left is fundamentally against capitalism. They believe that it’s a zero sum game. They believe that if you have a dollar, someone else loses a dollar. In some cases that’s true but not always and that’s just the way capitalism works sometimes. It ain’t perfect but it’s the best system there is.

And for them to think that a government taking your money is somehow “fair”, is comical. Why would it be okay for a government to take my money?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79616 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 11:51 am to
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You have to be economically retarded to believe that we can institute these wealth taxes that the left wants and it not have a negative effect on the economy.


You just described the lefts voter base especially the 13%ers…
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