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For the Idiots Spouting the WaPo article on Hydro usage..........Come take your beating

Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:07 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:07 am
WaPo did what it always does. Its headline doesn't match its contents once you get to the shite they buried more than a dozen paragraphs down.

The drug is currently FDA approved. Doctors prescribe it. The end.

Also, you'll ignore it, but the "analysis" didn't control for initial condition.

The people in the analysis ON the drug STARTED OFF in worse shape than the people in the analysis that were NOT on the drug.

ALSO. Buried in the story are THESE quotes.

quote:

The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic.


quote:

A large study of health-care workers that examines the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against covid-19 is in the works, but no results have been released.


quote:

Evidence of any benefit, such as viral clearance or improved symptoms, has been almost nonexistent.
This one is amusing because there's another way to write the phrase "almost non-existent". Do you need me to hold your hand?

quote:

Earlier this month, some proponents of hydroxychloroquine seized on a study out of New York University’s Langone Health center that threw zinc into the mix with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and showed the treated group had a higher rate of survival. But researchers emphasized that it only showed that the combination had some promise

So, you CAN take it in COMBINATION?

quote:

Last week, the National Institutes of Health announced a clinical trial of 2,000 adults to determine if hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could be used to treat coronavirus patients

quote:

Geoffrey Barnes, a cardiovascular specialist at the University of Michigan, said the study’s approach and its findings were “striking” in making the case that “the risk with these drugs is real.” However, he said that due to the enthusiasm some Americans have for the drug and the Lancet study’s findings, randomized trials are even more important.


Can I just point out that the very fact that various agencies are STILL doing trials indicates "THE EXPERTS" do NOT have a final answer on the subject despite what TigerMoronInDC seems to think?

OK. My boot is now so far up your arse, I'm somewhat concerned. And hell, I didn't even have to leave YOUR source to beat the shite out of your dumb asses
This post was edited on 5/22/20 at 8:08 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73763 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:09 am to
How DC09 keeps coming back here an lying his arse off is amazing
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101452 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 am to
People are losing their minds over MEDICINE.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:10 am to
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How DC09 keeps coming back here an lying his arse off is amazing
DC is very clearly an operative

Always has been.

Lying is what he does for a living.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56327 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:11 am to
Why do we care so much?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:11 am to
quote:

People are losing their minds over MEDICINE.


Think about how fricked up you have to be to be UPSET that a drug MIGHT work just because if it does, you think it would help Trump. How fricked up you had to be to HOPE trials would fail.

Think about that shite. You can't even get more idiotic than that.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
4396 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:11 am to

quote:

WaPo did what it always does


Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17478 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to






Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24751 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to
Too early for a treatment that works. The populace must be scared in November.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73763 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:13 am to
quote:

DC is very clearly an operative

Always has been.

Lying is what he does for a living.


Well his team is so stupid thinking he will change anyone's mind. He must have Simone Sanders as his boss
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4996 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:14 am to
quote:

DC is very clearly an operative

Always has been.

Lying is what he does for a living.


Several of these Soros-bots basically shut down Auburn's 24/7 political board with their spamming of WaPo articles. I imagine you'll find them on every conservative forum. I've always wondered if their take-home pay is even enough for a six of good beer.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Why do we care so much?

My personal opinion on the drug has always been the same. Hope that the initial indicators turned out to continue...….let the doctors do what doctors have done since the dawn of time.

It was weird how right out of the gates, the fact Trump mentioned the initial positive news suddenly made the MEDIA and the left CHEERLEAD for its failure. Somehow, they seemed to genuinely think there were a bunch of doctors out there making the medical decisions based on Trump's optimism.

To see the media report it, you'd have thought I could just go buy the drug at Walgreens.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140504 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:16 am to
Zip it shorty. The MSM is without bias. It is you radical righties that create bias out of unbiased articles like this one.

Love,

Microtiger



Great friend of road gator
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:23 am to
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Zip it shorty. The MSM is without bias. It is you radical righties that create bias out of unbiased articles like this one.


What's funny in this case is, if one actually reads the article being cited, the WaPo kicks its own arse.
Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Think about how fricked up you have to be to be UPSET that a drug MIGHT work just because if it does, you think it would help Trump. How fricked up you had to be to HOPE trials would fail.

Think about that shite. You can't even get more idiotic than that.


Good post. I have thought about this several times, and I keep coming to the same conclusion. They're mentally ill. It's the only reasonable explanation. TDS is real. I don't understand why, or how the trigger mechanism works, but clearly the election of president Trump (or was it the clinton loss) has a lot to do with it. Seems this would be a great study in mass delusion.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21001 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:25 am to
This is what happens when someone unaccustomed to reading scientific language translates. Never in a paper or chapter have I ever written that my treatment worked. You are postulating a null hypothesis. You are either rejecting the null or accepting the null. You never definitively say this will work, etc.

You use neutral language like "shows promise", "could possibility improve outcomes but more research is needed", or "shows promising results but warrants further study."

Every scientist reading that says, Ok, this is a good option. Jackass journalist read it and say, "Ah Ha, they do not say this works!" fill in political bias comment after.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27147 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:25 am to
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How DC09 keeps coming back


Dude gets his marching orders and talking points, then goes out and posts...
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14817 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Zip it shorty. The MSM is without bias. It is you radical righties that create bias out of unbiased articles like this one.

Love,

Microtiger



Great friend of road gator


Where was WaPo on that graphic he posted?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
1928 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Why do we care so much?


I wonder the same. More evidence seems to be saying that it’s not helpful and me even be harmful but that doesn’t appear to be conclusive. That’s why you do studies though to find out.

The bigger issue I have is the focus on Trump taking it. If he wants to take it, that’s between him and his doctor. I fail to see how this will cause others to take it as it’s not available over the counter. If it’s not appropriate, doctors need to do their job and not subscribe it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140504 posts
Posted on 5/22/20 at 8:27 am to
The graphic never showed for me.
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