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re: For all of you bustin' Texas' chops over TEXIT and electricity

Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45259 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:58 pm to
Enable wasn’t the right word.
Require was more appropriate.
And no, haven’t been out today.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
3575 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 2:58 pm to
China is massively expanding its weather-modification program, saying it will be able to cover half the country in artificial rain and snow by 2025

Since they already have access to our grid here in TX, are they doing this here?

https://archive.vn/52g8x
Posted by BornCritic
Member since Nov 2020
696 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:01 pm to
Contrast Texas's ability to ignore environmental laws in the face of a genuine, acute emergency with various state governments' ability to ignore civil liberties in the face of a pandemic "emergency".
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11380 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:02 pm to
I live within spitting distance of Texas here in Oklahoma.

The most shocking thing is how thoroughly unprepared the average person is these days. Bitching about losing power, cable and internet.

My wood stove has been doing it's job. Even though it was 0 out when I woke up, my heater barely ran. I have other sources of heat. I hunt and have warm clothing. I have a generator.

Unless you're elderly or handicapped, it's not that big of a deal.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

My wood stove has been doing it's job. Even though it was 0 out when I woke up, my heater barely ran. I have other sources of heat. I hunt and have warm clothing. I have a generator.


This you?

Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11380 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:07 pm to
Nah. I just don't like relying on anyone. I'd rather handle it myself.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37038 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:12 pm to
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TNM simply linked to a national publication.

Not sure why you’re chuckling.
The facts remain, regardless of the source.


Facts:
The request was made on the 14th
The approval was granted hours later on the same day, the 14th.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29288 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22585 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:19 pm to
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They will just laugh at Texans' misery (it's a red state, after all - for a little while longer until they can "turn it blue" by 2028 or 2032).

Does this mean in the somewhat near future there won’t be any red states? What are the Dems doing that is so great?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8980 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Chyna has access to our power grid in TX.


No, China has a Wind Farm in Texas. It has no control in the Intertie substation. All relays and equipment within that substation fence are US or German based manufacturing Protection Relays. Beckwith Electric (Florida US) , ABB (German) or Schweitzer (Pullman, WA US) All owned by the Utility.

The intertie substation is controlled by the Texas Utility. All contractual agreements based on the guidelines and operating parameters of the Utility ...not China. The China field Manager (Likely a US Engineer) doesn't communicate with the Utility other than by phone or email.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3168 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Texas produces more electricity than it consumes and maintains a buffer referred to as the “state’s reserve margin.”


Texas is a NET importer of electricity.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
3575 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

No, China has a Wind Farm in Texas. It has no control in the Intertie substation.


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Its 130,000 acres, the size of Tulsa, Oklahoma, bought legally for wind energy.. so what's wrong with that? Well, according to the congressman whose district includes Laughlin Air Force Base in Del Rio, the question is: should a company that has connections to the ruling Communist Party in China, have the ability to connect to our grid and be so close to the air force base that trains so many?

Congressman Will Hurd and Senator Ted Cruz have raised questions about Houston-based GH America Energy, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of Chinese Guanghua industry investment group. Its CEO, a former Sun Guangzin, a member of the Communist Party and a former member of the Chinese military, now wants to build wind turbines on the more than 130,000 acres that he has purchased since 2015 by Devils river.

In layman's terms when Texas deregulated our energy market, Texas being one of 3 power grids in the U.S., we left ourselves open according to Congressman Hurd for other countries including adversaries like China to tap in to our source of energy.

“And what’s scary about that is, if you become a provider, all the updates about a tax to our grid, that CPS energy gets, in order to defend, that could potential be going to an adversary as well," said Hurd.

https://foxsanantonio.com/news/yami-investigates/chinese-wind-farm-in-texas-its-the-greatest-national-security-concern-said-hurd
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:32 pm to
You cannot build a power system big enough to handle an event like this and have a large chunk of it sit idle 99.9999% of the time.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45259 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Texas is a NET importer of electricity.

I’m not sure that’s the case.
It’s honestly hard to tell from this verbiage (below).
If you have any better links, I’d be interested in reading them.
Thx!

LINK ]U.S. Energy Information Administration
quote:

Texas generates more electricity than any other state—almost twice as much as the second-highest electricity-producing state.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

We have to work together on some things collectively
not everyone agrees with this. some people feel that individuals should be able to pursue what their means allow. you know, liberty and stuff. "might makes right" is not popular in western society right now but, it's the way the world works ultimately. sure, we can collaborate when it's in our best interests but, that again is a free choice. otherwise, it's every person for themselves.

iow, a person who has worked diligently to prepare for such situations should not be held responsible for those who didn't, regardless of why they didn't. this is a serious misconception in our society right now. it's killing america. if a person decides to donate, that's their choice. the govt should never coerce people to do so, including telling people what to set their thermostat on.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 4:54 pm to
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t's nothing less than a sin to erect a bunch of unreliable, ugly, landscape-ruining, nature wrecking, non-storable power generating windmills that can't even be recycled when they're end of mission. 25% of our power should never come from "woke" stuff like that.

I’m not in the most accommodating of moods right now
don't you dare apologize for making common sense statements. somebody has to be the adult because our country is a bunch of brainwashed emotional trainwrecks right now.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:04 pm to
"Never let a crisis go to waste" - Rahm "Dead Fish" Emanuel

Good oppertunity for Plugs et al to put a damper on the TEXIT Movement.


Posted by SEC 440
Member since Jan 2021
283 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:05 pm to
And do believe sells the excess to other States.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3168 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:15 pm to
Eia

quote:

Texas generates more electricity than any other state—almost twice as much as the second-highest electricity-producing state.

Generation minus Consumption?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45259 posts
Posted on 2/16/21 at 5:54 pm to
I wasn’t questioning you; I just wanted to see the actual number generated minus the amount consumed.

I still don’t see the values; of course, I’m operating by: candlelight; the lowest power setting on my phone; and a good amount of scotch; so I could be missing it.

It’s tough to believe that other states produce as much as or more than they consume, that’s all.
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