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re: FL man fatally shoots home intruder while on phone with 911: they're in my house
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:52 pm to uway
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:52 pm to uway
quote:
I'm 10000% in favor of armed self defense, but its dumb to charge anyone with murder in this case.
I understand the desire to dissuade people from crime, but its nonsensical to charge someone with a murder you know they didn't commit.
Everyone knows its not a murder.
I disagree
the way the law reads, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you get charged with murder
it adds to the punitive nature of the law and serves as a deterrent
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:52 pm to uway
quote:
I'm 10000% in favor of armed self defense, but its dumb to charge anyone with murder in this case. I understand the desire to dissuade people from crime, but its nonsensical to charge someone with a murder you know they didn't commit. Everyone knows its not a murder.
Would the death have happened if the felony had not been committed? That is the reason for the felony murder rule. If someone dies during a felony you are committing, you are responsible for that death
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:53 pm to scrooster
They don't have to be in the house either - just have to be attempting to break in. In Louisiana.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:56 pm to uway
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Everyone knows its not a murder.
Totally disagree. Their decision to commit a criminal offense directly led to the death of their accomplice. That's murder.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:56 pm to cokebottleag
quote:
BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
"I killed one I think"
fricking Savage!
i think he was ensuring one wouldn't escape alive. can't blame.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:05 pm to dcbl
quote:
the way the law reads, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you get charged with murder
I know.
I disagree with broadening the definition of "murder" to include acts where the people you charge with murder didn't intend to take anyone's life. It just doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:18 pm to uway
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I know. I disagree with broadening the definition of "murder" to include acts where the people you charge with murder didn't intend to take anyone's life. It just doesn't make sense
When breaking and entering into someone else's home would it not be reasonably foreseeable that someone might end up being killed?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:20 pm to uway
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I disagree with broadening the definition of "murder" to include acts where the people you charge with murder didn't intend to take anyone's life. It just doesn't make sense.
I see your point & I could maybe accept involuntary manslaughter; but they for damned sure deserve to be charged with more than just B&E
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:48 pm to uway
quote:Actually, legally, it almost certainly is. Not in the 1st of course.
I understand the desire to dissuade people from crime, but its nonsensical to charge someone with a murder you know they didn't commit. Everyone knows its not a murder.
But, they do the same thing if 3 people carrying guns rob a bank and one of them shoots the teller.
All three get charged.
I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the specific legal term for the concept, but it exists.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:53 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the specific legal term for the concept, but it exists
Felony Murder Rule
Posted on 12/2/16 at 3:59 pm to dcbl
So they caught the two other thugs and charged them with murder.
Sounds good.
Sounds good.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 6:41 pm to dcbl
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I am pretty sure that the same law applies in TX, AL & GA - probably in a lot more states as well
Arizona!
Posted on 12/2/16 at 6:55 pm to dcbl
Joe McKnight gene pool? some people are too stupid even to be criminals
Posted on 12/2/16 at 8:11 pm to uway
quote:. If I get drunk and drive, killing a person. I didn't mean to do it.
quote:
the way the law reads, if someone dies while you are committing a felony, you get charged with murder
I know.
I disagree with broadening the definition of "murder" to include acts where the people you charge with murder didn't intend to take anyone's life. It just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:11 pm to dcbl
Man, he has big balls and my respect!
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:21 pm to imjustafatkid
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Totally disagree. Their decision to commit a criminal offense directly led to the death of their accomplice. That's murder.
Weird, when i get shite housed drunk and kill my passenger in my 3rd dui wreck, with an 8 ball in my pocket... despite both felonies I've committed it still leaves me at dui manslaughter, habitual offender felony dui, and possession of a controlled substance... but not murder.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:12 pm to MoarKilometers
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Weird, when i get shite housed drunk and kill my passenger in my 3rd dui wreck, with an 8 ball in my pocket... despite both felonies I've committed it still leaves me at dui manslaughter, habitual offender felony dui, and possession of a controlled substance... but not murder.
um - you know that manslaughter is a lesser murder charge - right?
and I am pretty sure in that situation, the DA can up the charge to murder
don't know for sure - prove me wrong
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:19 pm to dcbl
wtf why are they being charged with murder? Can someone explain that it makes no sense to me
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:39 pm to Bad Medicine
They intentionally caused someone to die
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:40 pm to dcbl
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 7:34 pm
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