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re: Finland President says Europe can defend itself “unequivocally, without the Americans”

Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Finland President says Europe can defend itself “unequivocally, without the Americans”

Prove it.

Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14167 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:10 pm to
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Sounds good to me. We have spent $22 trillion on NATO since 1980. Give us Greenland in exchange for all that money spent, then we will all go our separate ways.

This times infinity times infinity all day baby.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:40 pm to
I actually like Stubb. He's the most reasonable of the Western European leaders. Europe has 3 times the population and 10 times the GDP of Russia. They can defend themselves if they really want to. They've just had no motivation because we've been doing it for them.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:40 pm to
Eventually they likely can. The US should want them to continue being more able junior partners rather than actual rivals.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36333 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:52 pm to
Defend itself from the white natives who are being really mean to the mostly peaceful invaders.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 1:53 pm to
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How long would it take before they're in conflict with each other?

This is the biggest issue. We've not only protected Europe from Russia, but we've protected it from itself as well. That whole continent was in an almost constant state of war until 1945 when we told them that they had to play nice with each other.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41027 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 2:00 pm to
Prove it
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55580 posts
Posted on 1/21/26 at 4:36 pm to
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That assumes there would be time for that. We’ve been trying to get them there since WWII

Yeah, no way they could defend themselves now except by going nuclear. But Trump’s aggression is moving them that way.
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