re: Feud between The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder goes public...

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Drama to fuel content

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I guess.

I think he miscalculated. I think all he's done is mutual damage

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I think he miscalculated. I think all he's done is mutual damage

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It's wild because for awhile there, I thought DW/SC did a great job appreciating/leveraging the fact that there's a huge overlap in their respective audiences. Playing nice was always the way to go.

This kinda petty/high drama shite turns folks off to both of them.

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The Daily Wire would pay Crowder $50 million over four years, with the option of paying him $25 million for a two-year renewal

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stop paying all these grifters money... they are not on your side... theyre doing all this for money..

Ben Shapiro/Sean Hannity/Mark Levin/Dave Rubin/ Benny Johnson/ Etc.. theyre all grifters..

Them all being for McCarthy as speaker from the beginning was the litmus test.. Literally every conservative influencer on twitter was attacking the 20 that voted against McCarthy.. That should tell you everything you want to know..

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As he owns his own name, pretty sure his job is to do whatever he wants to do.

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Nobody is arguing that.

You quoted my response to a comment started with, "If you’re going to pay me to do a job right,", so that presupposition is required.

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He isn't required to pander for Dailywire and their bland flavor of inoffensive conservatism.

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Literally no one is making this argument.

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Ben Shapiro Retweeted
Matt’s Idea Shop
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how to negotiate

1. demand an offer

2. Tell them to double it

3. Don’t negotiate

4. wait four months

5. Call your friend and secretly record him

6. Go public about parts you don’t like

7. Release recordings of your friend

8. ????

9. Get the contract you hoped for

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Walsh seems to be the one DW guy taking direct shots.

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Ben Shapiro Retweeted
Matt Walsh
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That’s the opposite of the Daily Wire’s strategy. Crowder is deceiving you. We have built a subscriber base of 1 million+. Our long term strategy is to be our own institution, as Jeremy has very clearly laid out in the company meetings that are live streamed for the public to see
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Replying to @MattWalshBlog
Matt, you are by far my favorite conservative voice on The Daily Wire. I know you never speak with a muzzle when I listen to your shows. That being said, do you agree with the long term business strategy of The Daily Wire being dependent on ad revenue from woke companies?

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If we bring in less revenue, the company makes less money and therefore we make less money. The only other option is that we get paid regardless of how much we bring in, which would be an insane way of doing business and a ridiculous thing for anyone to expect.
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Couple of counterpoints @MattWalshBlog.

Crowder never said you *can't* say whatever you want at DW, but if you take that risk and are censored, DW will penalize you. That's the problem.

Second, how were there smears when DW outed themselves for offering Crowder the contract?

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His job isn't to get clicks.

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Oh so the consideration he receives from companies who distribute his content isn't based in revenue generation?

What's it based on? True belief? Altruism?

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The Daily Wire's whole schtick is that it's creating an alternative media economy/ ecology to the woke monopoly on media platforms.

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Which it is...

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If they are actually not doing that, but continuing to cede control to the censors at those platforms, then it's valid to point that out.

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And now you create a strawman with an unfair standard.

Once again. Crowder is running out of ideas and relies so heavily on emotional arguments related to being a victim, now he has to create a new boogeyman victimizing him. This is just orchestrated content done very poorly. If his goal was negative attention, he succeeded brilliantly.

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Ben Shapiro/Sean Hannity/Mark Levin/Dave Rubin/ Benny Johnson/ Etc.. theyre all grifters..

Them all being for McCarthy as speaker from the beginning was the litmus test.. Literally every conservative influencer on twitter was attacking the 20 that voted against McCarthy.. That should tell you everything you want to know..

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This argument makes 0 sense to me. At least with throwing Shapiro into the mix. Yes Shapiro was not for what the 20 holdouts were doing and accused them of having no plan and embarrassing themselves and the Republican party. You can call him establishment or a grifter/shill and not agree with it.

But if you listened to Matt Walsh or Andrew Klavan shows from around that same time they had 0 issues with what the 20 were doing. Matt Walsh said they were being smart and using the leverage they had to get someone else or concessions and that this was a good thing. Said he didn't care if it went for weeks. So no, Shapiro and DW don't control a mass narrative and have their people go in lock step as a unit.

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Crowder's issues were always with the way DW ran their business.

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Explain to me why the deal offered was such an issue.

If Crowder gets banned from YouTube then he can't make money for the dailywire, and that's why they'd dock his pay based on what the DW loses in revenue for there being NO PRODUCT offered.

The revenue his show would generate would have to cover the costs of the deal he was offered. I don't get why Crowder feels like he should be paid no matter what happens.

He claimed it wasn't about the money, but obviously the being docked portion of the contract WAS the reason he's upset.


Then he claimed dailywire is a shill for big tech because Mark Zuckerberg met with Shapiro at some point, yet Zuckerberg has consistently met with all sorts of people and even had dinner with a Trump voting family. Having dinner with Zuckerberg means almost nothing.

It was probably about the major leftwing media whining about the Dailywire getting Facebook attention.