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Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:46 pm to Uga Alum
You obviously don't know what cuck means. Why don't you waddle over to your phone and google it? I would tell you to ask Alexa but I'm pretty sure she would tell you to get your creepy arse away from her.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 4:47 pm to shinerfan
Well, since you’re the cuck, enlighten me.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 6:04 pm to Azkiger
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The vast majority of feminists don't, so maybe thats the better barometer for what the movement ultimately is/was.
The vast majority do think it is nuts. Ask your wife, mother, or sister, or any of your girlfriends whether they think a woman should be able to vote and have equal rights with men. If she says yes, then she is a feminist. Then ask her if she thinks all the modern man-hating feminist are OK. You will get more than half of them saying no those are nuts.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:53 pm to wackatimesthree
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Pretty much all of them.
Gonna need sources for pretty much all of first wave feminists worshiping Lilith.
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:54 pm to Uga Alum
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It is not or would not be for millions of people.
When tens of millions starve, populations typically move away from said policies.
Why tip your hand when you can be much more subtle about it?
Posted on 4/5/26 at 7:57 pm to Penrod
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The vast majority do think it is nuts. Ask your wife, mother, or sister, or any of your girlfriends whether they think a woman should be able to vote and have equal rights with men. If she says yes, then she is a feminist. Then ask her if she thinks all the modern man-hating feminist are OK. You will get more than half of them saying no those are nuts.
So feminism is just about women's right to vote when you need it to be, but it can also include all the modern man-hating rhetoric when you need it to?
Perhaps you should stick with one definition of feminism.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 4:56 am to Azkiger
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Perhaps you should stick with one definition of feminism.
But there isn’t just one definition. Here are the generally accepted four definitions:
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Feminism is generally categorized into four waves, representing evolving movements for gender equality: the first wave (late 19th-early 20th century) focused on voting and property rights; the second wave (1960s–1980s) tackled social, professional, and reproductive inequalities; the third wave (1990s–2010s) emphasized intersectionality, individualism, and diversity; and the fourth wave (2010s–present) leverages social media to combat sexual harassment, body shaming, and rape culture
In my opinion, no reasonable person can object to feminists pushing for the rights in the first two waves, with the exception of “reproductive rights”, which is abortion.
Now, to pull this back to the idiotic original post, are women who pushed for that first wave necessarily withches?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:01 am to Uga Alum
Posted on 4/6/26 at 5:04 am to Uga Alum
Posted on 4/6/26 at 9:55 am to Penrod
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But there isn’t just one definition. Here are the generally accepted four definitions:
There are 4 waves, so far, of feminism, yes. But feminism still has one definition.
Your issue is a lot of women you're counting as feminists would themselves say they're not feminists and therefore wouldn't count as feminist opposition to what's going on with 3rd/4th wave feminism.
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Now, to pull this back to the idiotic original post, are women who pushed for that first wave necessarily withches?
No, that's silly.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:36 am to Azkiger
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Your issue is a lot of women you're counting as feminists would themselves say they're not feminists and therefore wouldn't count as feminist opposition to what's going on with 3rd/4th wave feminism.
Semantics. They are first wave feminist, and maybe second wave feminists.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:55 am to Azkiger
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Gonna need sources for pretty much all of first wave feminists worshiping Lilith.
Gave you two.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:57 am to Uga Alum
There were good reasons for early feminism.
Women deserve equal rights under the law.
Late stage feminism is a cancer that destroys women and the cultures it infects by incentivizing all the least positive behaviors societally and will be the downfall of western civilization via population collapse unless tech factors like AI fill the gap.
Women deserve equal rights under the law.
Late stage feminism is a cancer that destroys women and the cultures it infects by incentivizing all the least positive behaviors societally and will be the downfall of western civilization via population collapse unless tech factors like AI fill the gap.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:57 am to Uga Alum
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Feminism is rooted in witchcraft and devil worship.
Rooted in? Doubtful
Infiltrated, perverted, and coopted by? Plausible
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:12 am to Penrod
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In my opinion, no reasonable person can object to feminists pushing for the rights in the first two waves
The problem is that that characterization is not accurate. It's revisionist.
I'm not saying that those weren't two planks in the platform, but pretty much everything that's in the platform today was in there in the 1st or 2nd wave, at least in a germ state.
I've posted this a bunch and y'all ignore it, but feminism contained the seeds of transgenderism in Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex, which is regarded universally as the dividing line between 1st and 2nd wave feminism, and it was published a year before John Money picked up the idea (although he's always the one who gets blamed/credited for it).
1st and 2nd wave writings encouraged abortion, women leaving the nuclear family, and promoted the idea I referred to above, that sex and gender are not the same and that children are born genderless and learn or choose their gender. They promoted anti-men, anti-family, and LGBTQ agendas.
The Queer movement came directly out of 2nd wave feminism, for example, and it's not what most people think (just like feminism itself). "Queer" doesn't mean gay or lesbian. It's more comprehensive than that. It means the rejection of ALL traditional societal norms regarding sexuality.
Obviously feminism took this position b/c they claim that all traditional societal norms regarding sexuality are patriarchal.
I would really encourage you and others here who think that 1st and 2nd wave feminism were about nothing more than women voting and gaining property rights to educate yourself. I understand why you think what you think...again, feminism is probably the most whitewashed ideology in existence today, but if you would step down off your soapbox about it and educate yourself I guarantee you that you would be surprised at what you found.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:16 am to Uga Alum
I don't care where it is rooted. It is clearly done nothing positive whatsoever for society and is now a springboard for every evil narrative that the left wants to push.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:20 am to Penrod
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Semantics. They are first wave feminist, and maybe second wave feminists.
I'd argue that first and second waves have mostly been absorbed into the culture at large.
If what determines what a feminist is thinking women have the right to vote, you probably have 85+% of the population believing/agreeing.
But far less people identify as feminists.
Why is that?
Because they dont simply think that women having the right to vote = feminism.
So you're using the definition in such a way that the majority of America disagrees with. And thats causing this confusion. Its probably best to drop your definition if you want a clear/clean conversation.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:23 am to wackatimesthree
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Gave you two.
You gave me two books.
I want a specific example and evidence to back that example up.
You wouldn't read two books that some rando forum poster recommended, why do you think randos will read two books you recommended.
If you're not smart enough for to provide what I've asked that's fine too.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 12:20 pm to Azkiger
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So you're using the definition in such a way that the majority of America disagrees with. And thats causing this confusion. Its probably best to drop your definition if you want a clear/clean conversation.
The problem is that you are trying to have a different conversation - What is a person who identifies as feminist today? But what we are talking about is whether feminism had its roots in witchcraft. Therefore early definitions of feminism are apropos.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 12:21 pm
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