re: Federal Gov School Voucher Program to launch in January

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I would even entertain the argument that the existence of those types of teachers are allowed primarily from a lack of enough parents being involved enough in their kids' school and with their school board.

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I'm curious what a well-functioning school board actually looks like. I doubt any large district has one.

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I think that's a solid point and I think a lot of it goes somewhat to what another poster said about teachers not disciplining in schools.

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I wonder what is meant by teacher "disciplining" students. Suspending/expelling them? There's not much teachers can do other than call home or ask an administrator to remove the kid from the classroom. Of course, that kid's test scores will still have as much weight as all the well-behaved students when it comes time for state testing, so removing them doesn't come without its own set of unintended consequences.

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This leads school administrators to coming up with ways to avoid having to report those disciplinary issues in the first place (like making the student write out why they think throwing a desk across a classroom was wrong and letting that be the penalty rather than being sent directly to the principal's office) and those ways often end up directly impacting a teacher's ability to maintain discipline in a classroom.

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The best strategy a teacher has for keeping the disruptive kids in check is developing good relationships with the disruptive kids. It takes a lot of investment but those "bad" kids have to trust their teacher so the teacher can calm them down and keep everyone safe. It's a lot of work and then people like the average poster here just rants against all teachers as blue-haired alphabet people trying make all kids trans.

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Why Meadow Died was eye-opening for me.

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my library has it. i'll have to check it out.

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The best strategy a teacher has for keeping the disruptive kids in check is developing good relationships with the disruptive kids.

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Nah.

The best strategy is abandoning this silly notion that all children must be forced to go to school. We let go of that and the problem becomes very simple. Child disrupts, parents are called in. Parents are informed that the child either behaves or s/he can stay at home with them during the day and the education will be solely up to them.

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It takes a lot of investment...It's a lot of work

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And this is why. The teacher is spending all this time trying to cajole the disruptive students into not being disruptive instead of that time and energy going into teaching.

So the parents who don't care are literally able to steal educational opportunities from the children of parents who do care.

Get them out of there.