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re: Fed Chair Powell advocates making student loans dischargable in BK
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:46 pm to Usafgiles
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:46 pm to Usafgiles
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think about the economic pluses. you've just freed 44 million people and allowed them to start buying homes and spending money.
You are economically retarded.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:46 pm to LSURussian
quote:I've repaid six figures in loans and wouldn't feel particularly "screwed" by this. Bankruptcy isn't fun, it's not something I would've pursued even if I'd been allowed.
And you just screwed all of the graduates who repaid their loans as they agreed to do.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:47 pm to Usafgiles
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then I guess they just need to forgive them. It's the only solution. what's 1.5 trillion to a 20+ trillion national debt.
think about the economic pluses. you've just freed 44 million people and allowed them to start buying homes and spending money.
Umm sounds like a terrific but short sighted idea because the carnage that comes along with this is astronomical. You will throwing millions more into the unemployment lines and shutting down 95% schools of higher education overnight. LSU would be forced to fire their entire staff and faculty & then forced to sell their assets just to field core departments. Then the trickle down effect of on small & medium sized businesses which feed off these these universities would be far outweigh your 1.5 trillion dollar number.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:47 pm to Antonio Moss
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You are economically retarded.
well it was half tongue in cheek.
but please explain...
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:49 pm to MrLSU
how would forgiving loans shut down schools. They have been paid. students don't owe the school, they owe the banks/government.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:49 pm to MrLSU
quote:Apparently LSU did not exist prior to 1998
You will throwing millions more into the unemployment lines and shutting down 95% schools of higher education overnight. LSU would be forced to fire their entire staff and faculty & then forced to sell their assets just to field core departments.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:50 pm to Iosh
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Sounds good to me (provided it comes with a rate hike of course).
it is completely ridiculous that you can't get these loans discharged in bankruptcy as it stands now. The whole point for bankruptcy is to be able to wipe away debts.
The corresponding factor to this is I do think that the corresponding interest rate for student loans should go up to account for the additional risk.
I don't think you will see this massive wave of people declaring bankruptcy if this change occurred. Bankruptcy pretty much fricks your credit life up for a long period of time, and many of those college grads are ill suited to frick themselves up more.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:50 pm to Iosh
quote:Okay, so the government raises the rates for all students bigly.
Do you think the federal government would sit on its hands and keep interest rates the same? I imagine they would hike rates bigly if something like this passed.
Every rate increase will eliminate another tranche of borrowers from being able to qualify for the loans.
So the unintended consequence of your "the government knows what's best for us" mentality is that fewer young people will go to college because they won't qualify for a loan.
All of this is moot if bankruptcy does not discharge a student's student loan obligation. That's why this stipulation was included in the current student loan law.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:50 pm to LSURussian
quote:Who said anything about unintended?
So the unintended consequence of your "the government knows what's best for us" mentality is that fewer young people will go to college
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:54 pm to Iosh
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"I'd be at a loss to explain why that should be the case,"
Fine, make it dischargeable through bankruptcy, It will no longer be guaranteed and you'll need collateral to secure the loan.
Fewer people will go to college - fewer people walking around with degrees they can't use and debt they can't repay.
Sounds like a win-win.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:56 pm to Iosh
You millenials shouldn't have gotten those gender studies degrees if you didn't want to die in debt
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:56 pm to stat19
well it's not really the "fewer people with degrees" that would be the problem. It would be who. You dampen upward mobility by only allowing those from means to go to college.
Either way. I'm sticking by my student loan forgiveness plan. No I don't have any details.
Either way. I'm sticking by my student loan forgiveness plan. No I don't have any details.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 2:57 pm to el Gaucho
gender studies? yea I dont think that is the problem.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:00 pm to Iosh
quote:Well, then, a simpler solution would be no more student loans to anyone, period. I'm okay with that....but I doubt the SJWs will agree to it.
So the unintended consequence of your "the government knows what's best for us" mentality is that fewer young people will go to college
Who said anything about unintended?
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:01 pm to Usafgiles
People can already apply for an income based repayment plan and have the balance forgiven after 25 years of on time payments for Federal loans. That's why I haven't refinanced mine.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:01 pm to LSURussian
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.but I doubt the SJWs will agree to it.
I think you would have a lot more people than SJW's against you.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:04 pm to Usafgiles
The real problem is grad degrees (including law degrees, etc.). Undergraduate education is not out of reach for most students and wasn't prior to the '98 and '05 reforms. At most this would result in some marginal shifting of students from private schools to state schools, state schools to directional state schools, and so on down the line to community colleges and votechs.
But there's some serious credential inflation going on right now with grad degrees. 90% of the time these six-figure debt horror stories involve grad PLUS loans. It's not just MFAs and sociologists; STEM fields like biology have huge gluts of PhDs who can't get anything except postdoc or adjunct work for shite pay.
That's where the real oversupply problem is.
But there's some serious credential inflation going on right now with grad degrees. 90% of the time these six-figure debt horror stories involve grad PLUS loans. It's not just MFAs and sociologists; STEM fields like biology have huge gluts of PhDs who can't get anything except postdoc or adjunct work for shite pay.
That's where the real oversupply problem is.
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:06 pm to Usafgiles
Guess working at Starbucks doesn't pay those loans back does it snowflake?
Posted on 3/9/18 at 3:09 pm to el Gaucho
bitch please. I own three restaurants and bar. my wife is an attorney.
nice try though.
This post was edited on 3/9/18 at 3:11 pm
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