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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:19 am to biggsc
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:19 am to boogiewoogie1978
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WTF are you even talking about? This is bad.
Was my sarcasm not apparent? I'll work on that.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:20 am to Centinel
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Go read my reply to you on the Pelosi FCC thread.
They still can control the flow of information.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:20 am to biggsc
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Well something else was under the Obama Administration. It has to be good
Republicans are supporting all rollbacks of Obama's policy even if they don't know anything about it.
This is bad!
I like the way the link uses "Free the internet". In actuality it will be quite the opposite.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:21 am to Ag Zwin
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The big-government-regulator mindset in a nutshell. It MIGHT happen, so let's create a bureaucracy. How about we wait until it DOES happen, craft the policy based on the facts, and then hold violators accountable?
ISPs have already proposed it....
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:21 am to ProjectP2294
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Was my sarcasm not apparent? I'll work on that.
Apologies my good man
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:22 am to biggsc
This is BAD for consumers/users. Only thing Obama did good, this will turn out bad for us.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:22 am to ProjectP2294
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If NN goes away, the ISP can put a governor on the speed at which your internet works for specific sites. Like, if AT&T wanted to start their own streaming services, they could slow down access to Hulu and Netflix to the point that it becomes unfeasible to use those services on AT&T internet.
I dont know I guess this doesnt bother me.and the example of paying an extra 5-10 for whatever sites means i have to pay an extra 70-120 per yr wouldnt bother me either
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:23 am to biggsc
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FCC to free Internet From Obama's “Net Neutrality” Rules
Y'all would eat any shite sandwich served up to you as long as it said "Obama bad" This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:23 am to rintintin
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On the other side you put the gov't in control, which could potentially kill the free market (although a very tough market to penetrate).
But the Big Six with absolute certainty will kill the free market. They can silence any message or website they don’t like or effect how they stream. This board at large does not understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism. The government is just incompetent, while the Big Six are malicious.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:24 am to SDVTiger
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I dont know I guess this doesnt bother me.and the example of paying an extra 5-10 for whatever sites means i have to pay an extra 70-120 per yr wouldnt bother me either
why should I have to pay extra to make Netflix usable when I already pay for Netflix and for internet?
All bc Netflix and my ISP don't come to an agreement. Consumers lose out big time. Internet in America is already more expensive than in other places providing the same service.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:25 am to OMLandshark
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The government is just incompetent, while the Big Six are malicious.
quoted for emphasis. I don't have anything to add, but this needs to be screamed from the rooftops.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:25 am to biggsc
This is a terrible idea. Bad, bad, bad..
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:25 am to HailToTheChiz
This is very good actually.
We do not want the government regulating the internet as a utility. They will pick winners and losers in a corrupt way.
What needs to happen next is the local governments need to quit regulation of ISP availability. People are tied to cable providers, for example, because of local agreements with cities or parishes and the provider.
We have always had "throttling". It's nothing new. The more competition we have among ISPs the less it will be an issue. Just 10 years ago all we had available at our office was ATT DSL. Now we have two fiber providers and a cable provider available to us.
No doubt if the government stayed in it the providers would have to supply speeds mandated by bureaucrats and competition would be reduced.
We do not want the government regulating the internet as a utility. They will pick winners and losers in a corrupt way.
What needs to happen next is the local governments need to quit regulation of ISP availability. People are tied to cable providers, for example, because of local agreements with cities or parishes and the provider.
We have always had "throttling". It's nothing new. The more competition we have among ISPs the less it will be an issue. Just 10 years ago all we had available at our office was ATT DSL. Now we have two fiber providers and a cable provider available to us.
No doubt if the government stayed in it the providers would have to supply speeds mandated by bureaucrats and competition would be reduced.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:26 am to SDVTiger
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I dont know I guess this doesnt bother me.and the example of paying an extra 5-10 for whatever sites means i have to pay an extra 70-120 per yr wouldnt bother me either
Paying extra money doesn't bother you?
Wut?
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:28 am to StraightCashHomey21
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They still can control the flow of information.
Yes, but only in terms of the content they own/produce.
Amazon and Google are much, MUCH bigger threats on that front.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:30 am to I B Freeman
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What needs to happen next is the local governments need to quit regulation of ISP availability. People are tied to cable providers, for example, because of local agreements with cities or parishes and the provider.
This is the real problem.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:30 am to I B Freeman
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What needs to happen next is the local governments need to quit regulation of ISP availability.
This needs to happen first.
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We do not want the government regulating the internet as a utility. They will pick winners and losers in a corrupt way.
So you'd rather have the ISP providers pick winners and losers? Good luck with things like Netflix that are a direct competitor.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:31 am to I B Freeman
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We do not want the government regulating the internet as a utility. They will pick winners and losers in a corrupt way.
And Comcast won’t? Are you remotely familiar with them as a company?
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No doubt if the government stayed in it the providers would have to supply speeds mandated by bureaucrats and competition would be reduced.
Absolute hogwash. Do you really think Comcast, AT&T, and Cox are going to let competitors in? The Big Six is furious with YouTube and are trying to turn it into glorified cable like Hulu is.
You’ll have to go through them now if you want any internet startup, and if you don’t meet their message or play by their rules, then you will never have a shot.
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