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re: FCC to free Internet From Obama's “Net Neutrality” Rules
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:32 am to Centinel
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:32 am to Centinel
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Yes, but only in terms of the content they own/produce. Amazon and Google are much, MUCH bigger threats on that front.
Yes but you have other alternatives for shopping or searching. Not all people have that with ISPs
They are the content not the way to access the content aka ISP(Unless you are lucky enough to have Google Fiber)
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:33 am to I B Freeman
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This is very good actually.
Of course you would like something as disastrous as this.
Enjoy paying an extra 15 dollars a month to browse Tigerdroppings
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:34 am to I B Freeman
If as much energy had been directed at local government as has been directed in support of NN none of this would an issue today.
If you really want better choices in Louisiana do this:
1) tell your local government to allow any cable provider that wishes to operate in your area and forego the monopoly fees the parish collects
2) tell your state representative to make sure all utility right of ways are available to all ISPs AND tell him to eliminate any restriction on your electricity provider from being in the ISP business
We need more ISPs not regulation limiting competition like NN would have no doubt led too.
If you really want better choices in Louisiana do this:
1) tell your local government to allow any cable provider that wishes to operate in your area and forego the monopoly fees the parish collects
2) tell your state representative to make sure all utility right of ways are available to all ISPs AND tell him to eliminate any restriction on your electricity provider from being in the ISP business
We need more ISPs not regulation limiting competition like NN would have no doubt led too.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:34 am to StraightCashHomey21
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why should I have to pay extra to make Netflix usable when I already pay for Netflix and for internet?
Well i dont pay for Netflix. And Netflix costs 7 a mnth and internet is 50 a mnth so no i wouldnt care if i had to pay 62 instead of 57
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:36 am to SDVTiger
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Well i dont pay for Netflix. And Netflix costs 7 a mnth and internet is 50 a mnth so no i wouldnt care if i had to pay 62 instead of 57
for fricks sake you like giving away your money
I wish my internet cost $50 a month. I pay $105 and that's with a data cap. Only way to increase my cap is to pay for bandwidth I don't need.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:37 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Yes but you have other alternatives for shopping or searching. Not all people have that with ISPs
They are the content not the way to access the content aka ISP(Unless you are lucky enough to have Google Fiber)
You're not getting what I'm saying. The AT&T and Time Warner merger is merging the two media companies. Not the ISPs.
Time Warner Cable is not the Time Warner merging with AT&T. Time Warner Cable no longer exists.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:38 am to I B Freeman
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1) tell your local government to allow any cable provider that wishes to operate in your area and forego the monopoly fees the parish collects
Yeah, because the politicians in New Orleans and Chicago are going to love this.
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2) tell your state representative to make sure all utility right of ways are available to all ISPs AND tell him to eliminate any restriction on your electricity provider from being in the ISP business
I have made all of my reps aware to not bother next election asking for cash because I will be giving it to their opponents who do not sell out to Comcast.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:38 am to GetCocky11
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Paying extra money doesn't bother you?
Not when its a difference of a few dollars.
I live in SoCal so all I do is pay extra money for nothing.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:39 am to Centinel
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You're not getting what I'm saying. The AT&T and Time Warner merger is merging the two media companies. Not the ISPs. Time Warner Cable is not the Time Warner merging with AT&T. Time Warner Cable no longer exists.
yea I got that
I'm saying AT&T still will control flow of information on multiple fronts. They will be able to make CNN.com much more usable than Fox.com. Bc AT&T will now own CNN.
Just take a min and think about it.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:40 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Ditto here. Our county just voted out state controlled ISP, and in an area like this, where there is tons of cash and tourism we still have shite internet and when recently moved here i did not understand why. The election just happened and on the ticket was to kill a 2005 law which stated the city/county was in control of ISP competition and providers, I just about died on the spot. No wonder shite sucks balls here, but it all was voted away and I hope it opens the door for more competition.
I pay $105 and that's with a data cap
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:42 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:41 am to SDVTiger
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Not when its a difference of a few dollars.
And that adds up to about 10K a year which could go to paying your kids future education, but who cares right? Obviously math is not your strong suit.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:42 am to StraightCashHomey21
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They will be able to make CNN.com much more usable than Fox.com. Bc AT&T will now own CNN.
Which is why the DOJ wants CNN divested. The rest of the IP owned by Time Warner is entertainment focused.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:43 am to OMLandshark
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And that adds up to about 10K a year which could go to paying your kids future education, but who cares right? Obviously math is not your strong suit.
100 extra a year x 20yrs = 2,000
What fricking college are you talking about
Sorry you are a cheap
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Obviously math is not your strong suit
You sure. I dont know how you calculated 10k a year
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:45 am to SDVTiger
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100 extra a year x 20yrs = 2,000
What fricking college are you talking about
Sorry you are a cheap
I’m just saying anything in life where you can get screwed out of cash, and it probably happens once or twice a day to everyone. All those combined, then if you have 120K family income, I can see about 10K of that going to waste if you don’t spend money wisely.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:46 am to OMLandshark
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1) tell your local government to allow any cable provider that wishes to operate in your area and forego the monopoly fees the parish collects
Yeah, because the politicians in New Orleans and Chicago are going to love this.
Doesn't matter---the problem is availability of ISP competition NOT lack of federal government involvement.
Technology is going to get ahead of them and it will not matter soon.
With government regulation the providers will only seek to limit competition and reduce capital expenditures as they always have when the fed regulates. Look for crap like mandated speeds to your house whether they are adequate or not and license agreements that reduce competition.
It is short sighted and foolish to support the federal regulation of the internet as a utility as the proponents of NN do.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:46 am to rintintin
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On one side you have large corporations (basically monopolies) running the show, with the ability to throttle your internet if they want.
On the other side you put the gov't in control, which could potentially kill the free market (although a very tough market to penetrate).
I usually lean towards giving the gov't as little control as possible.
This has never been a free market. So there is nothing that is going to get “lost.”
ISP’s are just trying to use the regulatory system to arrange a rent-seeking relationship by using their already established market power of near monopolies in many areas to extort customers and online businesses of more money. And the Trump administration has promised to be their Huckleberry every step of the way so far. Starting with the legislation earlier this year to allow those same ISP’s to sell your data without your consent to the highest bidder.
Now their poised to let companies like Verizon have the ability to throttle or force Google to pay or they will shuffle traffic to Yahoo by giving it the only search engine fast lane. Yahoo, the company Verizon owns. Or maybe Time Warner just decides they want to throttle Netflix and Hulu services because they want people to sign up for cable or use HBO Now only. For you Trumpkins, maybe Cox reaches a nice extortion deal with CNN and the Huffington Post for a fast lane and as a consequence of the deal they throttle traffic to their main competitors. Leaving you frustrated, if not unable to get your daily hit of right wing media that will tell you how good repealing this Net Neutrality thing is for you.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:48 am to bonhoeffer45
Encouraging competition is the answer not creating barriers of entry to the ISP business as the FCC will no doubt do if we stay on the current path.
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 11:50 am
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:49 am to biggsc
Then why did I post it 
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:50 am to OMLandshark
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I’m just saying anything in life where you can get screwed out of cash, and it probably happens once or twice a day to everyone. All those combined, then if you have 120K family income, I can see about 10K of that going to waste if you don’t spend money wisely.
talk about a spin Please explain how NN would cause someone to pay an extra 10k a year and ruin college funds
Since you claim others math skills are not their strong suit
Posted on 11/21/17 at 11:51 am to Centinel
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Which is why the DOJ wants CNN divested
lets hope so
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The rest of the IP owned by Time Warner is entertainment focused.
Those entertainment things like streaming services, can now play into the this won't count against your data cap like DTV now and AT&T.
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