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re: FCC plans to vote to overturn U.S. net neutrality rules in December
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 am to Breesus
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:42 am to Breesus
quote:This is arse backwards. You should have a look at what the FCC has done to:
How does the free market punish or influence ISPs?
1/ establish monopolies on behalf of the telcos
2/ keep competitive technologies OUT of the market place by regulation
Then ask yourself “how does the fcc punish or influence ISPs?”
Go look at broadcasting... there are at least 5 AM stations in TX that illegally operate at full power at night. Been doing it for years. The FCC knows about it. They could shut them down tomorrow. But they do... nothing.
Ever wonder why AM stations now have an FM signal these days? They are using Translators for that. Translators are by regulation only to be used where terrain prevents signal from reaching listeners. You “terrain” like in southwest Louisiana.
You people are kidding yourself. The FCC want “net neutrality” so they can auction off the bandwidth just like they do for radio spectrum. It’s worth an asspile of money to he government—hence “bipartisanship”.
Y’all are being worked and you don’t even know it.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:43 am to OMLandshark
quote:
Y’all have yet to give me a compelling reason to let me hand over the distribution channel of a free speech platform to AT&T, Comcast, and the rest of the Big Six.
Right after you give me a compelling reason to hand it over to the U.S. Government!
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:43 am to Centinel
quote:
And Kodi is not a "group of websites." It's a media streaming application.
a majority of KODI add ons people use for tv shows, movies and sports link you to streaming websites.....
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:When data hogs start slowing down everyone else's internet access speeds, yes, it affects me. If those hogs have to pay more, then they will either be more aware of their usage or they will be helping to pay for more infrastructure.
Explain what I said was wrong.....
Limiting data usage doesn't make anyone's internet experience better.
Now, to keep up with the demand of those data hogs, providers have to keep building more and more infrastructure to support them which costs all subscribers more money.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:44 am to Centinel
quote:
Then address this problem directly
How?
Explain to me how I am supposed to force Cox to upgrade their entire infrastructure in New Orleans
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:44 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Yep. As I thought. You're a fricking retard.
I was laughing pretty had when I read his response.
I hope when NN is shut down the ISPs go after Kodi. I bet this bafoon would blame it on Obama somehow.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:45 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
a majority of KODI add ons people use for tv shows, movies and sports link you to streaming websites.....
Yes. That doesn't change the fact Kodi is a media streaming application and not a "group of websites."
I'm fully aware of what Kodi is and does.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to ShortyRob
quote:
ShortyRob
Is there a reason you refuse to make a concrete point or any attempt to explain any of the ideas you put forward?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:So why don’t they charge $10,000/mo? Think of all the money they could make!!
Not if said customers have no other viable option for internet. If my ISP jacks the price up which is already well over market value. I have no where else to go bc the other provider can't offer more than 5meg down where I live.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to Taxing Authority
quote:
You people are kidding yourself. The FCC want “net neutrality” so they can auction off the bandwidth just like they do for radio spectrum. It’s worth an asspile of money to he government—hence “bipartisanship”. Y’all are being worked and you don’t even know it.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to ShortyRob
quote:
What time frame?
15 years.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to Breesus
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How?
You said the issue was ISPs setting up fiefdoms. Go after their ability to set up these fiefdoms, which only exist because of government involvement at the state and local level.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:46 am to LSURussian
quote:
When data hogs start slowing down everyone else's internet access speeds, yes, it affects me. If those hogs have to pay more, then they will either be more aware of their usage or they will be helping to pay for more infrastructure. Now, to keep up with the demand of those data hogs, providers have to keep building more and more infrastructure to support them which costs all subscribers more money.
For fricks sake you don't know what you are talking about.
ISPs raise cost but move at snails pace to improve infrastructure . They only improve infrastructure when competition moves in, ie Google Fiber.
Data hogs don't slow you internet down its having cable not fiber and too many houses using the same nodes. When too many users are on the same node, no one can hog data.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:47 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Right after you give me a compelling reason to hand it over to the U.S. Government!
Because if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. It’s as simple as that.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:47 am to Centinel
quote:
Yes. That doesn't change the fact Kodi is a media streaming application and not a "group of websites."
Actually, It kind of does. But keep watching you're not pirated Jenna Jameson on pornhub.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:48 am to LSURussian
quote:
When data hogs start slowing down everyone else's internet access speeds, yes, it affects me. If those hogs have to pay more, then they will either be more aware of their usage or they will be helping to pay for more infrastructure.
I have no problem with the end user paying more for faster service from the pipe in his house.
We already do this.
Cox offers multiple speed teirs for internet.
I have a problem with the pipe owner deciding what gets piped and at what speeds with no input or care about the end user.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:49 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
Actually, It kind of does.
No, it doesn't. Words have meaning. Use the correct ones.
quote:
But keep watching you're not pirated Jenna Jameson on pornhub.
You think Jenna Jameson couldn't get her content removed from a massive website like PornHub if she wanted to?
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:50 am to LSURussian
quote:Yep. Not only that... but those data hogs are actually charging consumers money and earning a profit (well, some of them
Now, to keep up with the demand of those data hogs, providers have to keep building more and more infrastructure to support them which costs all subscribers more money.
) off of the free delivery of those services that cost the ISP money to support. Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:51 am to LSURussian
quote:
When data hogs start slowing down everyone else's internet access speeds, yes, it affects me. If those hogs have to pay more, then they will either be more aware of their usage or they will be helping to pay for more infrastructure.
Apparently, the whiners want the ISPs to simply upgrade to satisfy the need ad infinitum without any ability to pass on the cost to those driving the need to upgrade.
Ya know. Cause they love "free markets"!!!! And, oh, by the way. THAT is a HUGE barrier to entry. What they WANT TO EXIST is the HUGE barrier to entry.
And the tards want to entrench that barrier into law!!
Imagine a policy that said everyone who wants their product in a grocery store can have their product there.
No store can refuse it.
And, no store can give better placement to one product over another.
And. If so much product shows up that you need more warehouse space......you have to build it.....but you can't charge us for causing that need!
LOL........yeah. That would be a problem.
The real problem for the whiners is that they can't conceptualize digitial product in a similar way to physical product. So, to them........it's like, "just let it all through man..........why are you such an a-hole!!!".
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:51 am to Breesus
quote:
I have no problem with the end user paying more for faster service from the pipe in his house.
The reality of the fact is most house holds don't need more than 50 meg down. ISPs over sell their bandwidth making people believe is this make believe data hog.
quote:
I have a problem with the pipe owner deciding what gets piped and at what speeds with no input or care about the end user.
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