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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality

Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30229 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?


Exactly how does NN achieve this by giving the FCC the power to do whatever the hell it wants to do with little to no oversight.

I mean if it did what you say that sounds great in theory....but it doesn't. It basically just takes power from one baddie and gives it to another baddie. Oh and by the way the 2nd baddie is bought and paid for by the first baddie...so there's that.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39446 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to
Why is classifying the internet as a public utility a good thing?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31205 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?



One of the more important issues of our times.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to
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Exactly how does NN achieve this by giving the FCC the power to do whatever the hell it wants to do with little to no oversight.


It put the road block on ISPs preventing them to do this.

Something they had proposed to do.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80163 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to
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Why is classifying the internet as a public utility a good thing?



That is not the same as treating all data packets equal.

Two different conversations.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:44 am to
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Why is treating all traffic equally by government force a bad thing?


Answer is in the question.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39446 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:44 am to
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I have yet to see anyone answer this question with a GOOD answer.



That's because it is a question that nobody is arguing against. It is a pointless question. All you Pro-NN posters are stuck in the delusion that we are against the law because we don't want what the above question is about. You are trying to argue against us to a point that we aren't even in disagreement over.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?



Because NN treating all traffic equally is the lie that keeps on giving.

Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN.

Get your head out of your arse.


Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80163 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to
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Answer is in the question.



The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it. They have already proven it.


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Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN.


So you are denying the FACT that companies have already been caught throttling and trying to stifle competitors?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4970 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to
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Dude was a Lawyer for Verizon.......

And will be C-suite with hookers and blow every day when he returns.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39446 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to
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That is not the same as treating all data packets equal.

Two different conversations.


Well finally you are getting it. Maybe you can realize now we aren't arguing for treating data differently, and realize that we are arguing that the law really doesn't help what you are trying to say it does. It does however make the internet a public utility. Thus our complaint.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39446 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am to
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The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it. They have already proven it.


Really? Because they've been on board with regulations in the past to prevent such things from happening. Guess who stood in the way of lots of those (it wasn't the ISPs). Some of them are even entering into such regulations on their own, willingly, as part of merger agreements.

For being so against it that they have to be forced to do something, they sure end up doing it a lot on their own.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am to
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The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it.
OK

I realize this is supposed to terrify me to which my response is the same.

Economics applies. ALWAYS.

Unless, of course, some dumb arse decides to pass a law locking in the current snapshot of the world.
Posted by culsutiger
Member since Apr 2012
652 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:49 am to
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:44 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:49 am to
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Because NN treating all traffic equally is the lie that keeps on giving.


On the open internet it isn't a lie

If you are running a business network and want to restrict employees that's a different thing.

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Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN. Get your head out of your arse.


ISPs proposed to create fast lanes, thus not treating all traffic on the internet as equal. Maybe your head is in your arse.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:56 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39446 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:50 am to
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It put the road block on ISPs preventing them to do this.

Something they had proposed to do.


And ISPs had also agreed to similar regulations before, and it didn't involve re-classification. So again, you are trying to form an argument that nobody is in disagreement over.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:51 am to
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And ISPs had also agreed to similar regulations before, and it didn't involve re-classification. So again, you are trying to form an argument that nobody is in disagreement over.


we have literally had people on here saying fast lanes are a good idea
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133401 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:52 am to
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?
If all internet traffic users had identical characteristics your question would be valid. But they aren't so it isn't.

quote:

“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” -Animal Farm by George Orwell
Why do you believe the federal government knows what's best for everyone who uses the internet? Can you answer that?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:52 am to
This guy may act like a fricking clown, but he’s a former Verizon executive who knows damn well what it’s going to happen. He’s lying, and I’m not going to let his fake affability fool me.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133401 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:53 am to
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Economics applies. ALWAYS.
ALWAYS.
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