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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?
Exactly how does NN achieve this by giving the FCC the power to do whatever the hell it wants to do with little to no oversight.
I mean if it did what you say that sounds great in theory....but it doesn't. It basically just takes power from one baddie and gives it to another baddie. Oh and by the way the 2nd baddie is bought and paid for by the first baddie...so there's that.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:42 am to StraightCashHomey21
Why is classifying the internet as a public utility a good thing?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?
One of the more important issues of our times.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to LSU316
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Exactly how does NN achieve this by giving the FCC the power to do whatever the hell it wants to do with little to no oversight.
It put the road block on ISPs preventing them to do this.
Something they had proposed to do.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:43 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Why is classifying the internet as a public utility a good thing?
That is not the same as treating all data packets equal.
Two different conversations.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:44 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Why is treating all traffic equally by government force a bad thing?
Answer is in the question.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:44 am to SG_Geaux
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I have yet to see anyone answer this question with a GOOD answer.
That's because it is a question that nobody is arguing against. It is a pointless question. All you Pro-NN posters are stuck in the delusion that we are against the law because we don't want what the above question is about. You are trying to argue against us to a point that we aren't even in disagreement over.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?
Because NN treating all traffic equally is the lie that keeps on giving.
Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN.
Get your head out of your arse.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to ShortyRob
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Answer is in the question.
The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it. They have already proven it.
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Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN.
So you are denying the FACT that companies have already been caught throttling and trying to stifle competitors?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Dude was a Lawyer for Verizon.......
And will be C-suite with hookers and blow every day when he returns.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:46 am to SG_Geaux
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That is not the same as treating all data packets equal.
Two different conversations.
Well finally you are getting it. Maybe you can realize now we aren't arguing for treating data differently, and realize that we are arguing that the law really doesn't help what you are trying to say it does. It does however make the internet a public utility. Thus our complaint.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am to SG_Geaux
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The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it. They have already proven it.
Really? Because they've been on board with regulations in the past to prevent such things from happening. Guess who stood in the way of lots of those (it wasn't the ISPs). Some of them are even entering into such regulations on their own, willingly, as part of merger agreements.
For being so against it that they have to be forced to do something, they sure end up doing it a lot on their own.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:48 am to SG_Geaux
quote:OK
The ISPs WILL NOT do it unless forced to do it.
I realize this is supposed to terrify me to which my response is the same.
Economics applies. ALWAYS.
Unless, of course, some dumb arse decides to pass a law locking in the current snapshot of the world.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:49 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:49 am to stat19
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Because NN treating all traffic equally is the lie that keeps on giving.
On the open internet it isn't a lie
If you are running a business network and want to restrict employees that's a different thing.
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Treating all traffic equally is something we've been doing since the internet was founded. Its not something that was taken away and given back by NN. Get your head out of your arse.
ISPs proposed to create fast lanes, thus not treating all traffic on the internet as equal. Maybe your head is in your arse.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:56 am
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:50 am to StraightCashHomey21
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It put the road block on ISPs preventing them to do this.
Something they had proposed to do.
And ISPs had also agreed to similar regulations before, and it didn't involve re-classification. So again, you are trying to form an argument that nobody is in disagreement over.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:51 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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And ISPs had also agreed to similar regulations before, and it didn't involve re-classification. So again, you are trying to form an argument that nobody is in disagreement over.
we have literally had people on here saying fast lanes are a good idea
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:52 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:If all internet traffic users had identical characteristics your question would be valid. But they aren't so it isn't.
Why is treating all traffic equally a bad thing?
quote:Why do you believe the federal government knows what's best for everyone who uses the internet? Can you answer that?
“All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.” -Animal Farm by George Orwell
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:52 am to stat19
This guy may act like a fricking clown, but he’s a former Verizon executive who knows damn well what it’s going to happen. He’s lying, and I’m not going to let his fake affability fool me.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:53 am to ShortyRob
quote:ALWAYS.
Economics applies. ALWAYS.
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