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FBI manipulated crime stats under Biden

Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40770 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 9:59 pm
House Oversight Committee

I posted this last year but am reposting to remind everyone considering it has been a recent topic. If a poster engages you touting a crime decrease they are lying to you factually.

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In 2023, the FBI initially reported an estimated 1.7 percent decrease in violent crime in 2022 but later quietly revised the report to show a 4.5 percent increase––a staggering 6.2 percent change.


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In 2023, the FBI released its annual Crime in the Nation report, showing an estimated 1.7 percent decrease in violent crime in 2022. The Biden-Harris Administration championed the purported decrease, but there was no decrease. The FBI failed to include in its initial count “an additional 1,699 murders, 7,780 rapes, 33,459 robberies, and 37,091 aggravated assaults,” resulting in not a decrease but an increase in violent crime of 4.5 percent in 2022. The FBI quietly revised the report to reflect this increase in violent crime but did not publicize it.



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Posted by SlowFlowPro 8/12/25 at 12:09 pm to Rebel Naw.

He's making a terrible argument and I already did this last year.

Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad or would reverse the trend.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39891 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:01 pm to
It’s like everyone forgot this was exposed and has been going on for a while.
Posted by BarnHater
Member since May 2015
7825 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:01 pm to
So glad we have Patel. Slowly but surely he’s bringing down the FBI and exposing the deep state and their lies.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6712 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:08 pm to
Aren't many large crime ridden cities not sending their crime stats to the FBI anymore?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33473 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:08 pm to
The board’s esteemed scholar is wrong again.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
14829 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:08 pm to
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Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad or would reverse the trend.


Don't know the whole context of this, but as a statistician

If the cities misreporting or not reporting were heavy hitters...yeah could totally reverse a trend. Or make a trend stronger depending on if the reports were bad data or not (bias could exist in both directions)

ETA: this is why we statisticians have the same rep as lawyers. We can "adjust" pretty effectively when more money is involved...we'll at least in the private sector

This post was edited on 8/12/25 at 10:11 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80346 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:11 pm to
Only the stupid would be surprised.

In the post COVID world we know that our media, our science, our data, can't be trusted.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17209 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:18 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
13437 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:55 pm to
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SlowFlowPro


That dude is the most educated dumb arse on this board. Facts be damned to they/them. Really makes you think how case load win/loss rate is.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 10:59 pm to
We literally had zero accountability over 4 years.
Frankly, I'm surprised we're made it through
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8360 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:07 pm to
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FBI failed to include in its initial count “an additional 1,699 murders


But I was told, you can't hide murders.

Imagine the stats if the big cities were honest.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5663 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
25085 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Aren't many large crime ridden cities not sending their crime stats to the FBI anymore?


Considering the top 25 or so cities are run by Dems, and then the ef bee eye skewed stats in their favor - tells us all we need to know.

Dims are liars. If you don’t report stats then later use those underreported stats that aren’t accurate to pimp your crime going down - it’s all political and not statistically correct.

Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6174 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:26 am to
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The board’s esteemed scholar is wrong again.

He has relentlessly posted and hid behind these "crime statistics".

No other poster can hold a candle to "his" level of rightness.

Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3738 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:34 am to
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That dude is the most educated dumb arse on this board. Facts be damned to they/them. Really makes you think how case load win/loss rate is.


It’s an obstinate contrarian character he plays on this site to drive engagement. He’s very good in that regard, I’m sure the developers love the traffic he brings. I’ve had 2 exchanges with him where no rules were broken and I got the stop sign and post quality review warning. So yeah, he’s a tattler and because of his engagement numbers, will always get the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28061 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:42 am to
Everything was a hoax while the democrats were in charge.

Except them all enriching their families on the American Tax Dollar.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17741 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:49 am to
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That dude is the most educated dumb arse on this board. Facts be damned to they/them. Really makes you think how case load win/loss rate is.


He’s most likely a paralegal. I can’t imagine any competent lawyer having enough time to live on TD. And I do mean “live.”
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15541 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 5:50 am to
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Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad or would reverse the trend.


resulting in not a decrease but an increase
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:10 am to
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Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad or would reverse the trend.

You clearly don't understand this simple point.

Massive data collection has corrections. That's what the story you posted, says. That's a nothingburger and is part of the process.

However, that has nothing to do with what you quoted me saying. They didn't leave 0s for those cities who didn't adopt the new system fast enough.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467749 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 6:11 am to
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The board’s esteemed scholar is wrong again.

The 2 things in OP are not even related, rhetorically
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