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re: FBI building DNA data base for ALL Americans.... strike one against Trump
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:29 am to The Maj
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:29 am to The Maj
quote:
Well, you are an alter, so are you "really" afraid of LE or just playing like you are on a message board?
It's not like we have not seen some BS in the USA lately.
From the article:
“Even people who aren’t charged with major crimes could have their DNA put on file.
“People who are just seen as suspicious could have their genetic makeup stored in a criminal database.”
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:30 am to finchmeister08
quote:
i mean, i get it. it kinda goes against the 4th amendment,
It can be argued that how they caught the Golden St killer was a violation of the 4th amendment. And I am very uncomfortable with the police/fbi using public data bases like ancestory.com that my sister joined to "find" my DNA match....that scares the crap out me.
However, when you get arrested, even if you are not convicted, you sacrifice certain rights. And I don't see what the big deal is with taking a dna sample upon a lawful arrest. It is no different than a fingerprint or photograph.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:31 am to Jjdoc
This may be completely off the wall, but...
What if they used this in the future for government-run healthcare purposes? They could choose not to treat you due to genetic predispositions, force you to have to pay extra, or make you seek outside care.
What if they used this in the future for government-run healthcare purposes? They could choose not to treat you due to genetic predispositions, force you to have to pay extra, or make you seek outside care.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:31 am to Jjdoc
If the FBI had DJT's DNA, they would have found it at the crime scene of the Seth Rich murder.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:31 am to Ten Bears
quote:
Not saying that I agree with this, but how is this different from being photographed and providing fingerprints upon arrest?
Because taking DNA is a more intrusive invasion of your privacy that isn't plainly available to the naked eye like a photograph or easily acquired by your voluntary contact with an object.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 11:34 am
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
And from the article :
SO your whole.. "Don't get arrested" is BS.
You should have stated :
"Don't get arrested, have a baby in a hospital, nor look up your ancestry... sit in a public place... go out to eat. or go out in public ever."
quote:
hospitals are taking and storing newborn babies’ DNA often without the parent’s consent.
What’s more is that people are voluntarily giving over their DNA to sites such as Ancestry which are mined for information by the authorities.
SO your whole.. "Don't get arrested" is BS.
You should have stated :
"Don't get arrested, have a baby in a hospital, nor look up your ancestry... sit in a public place... go out to eat. or go out in public ever."
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:32 am to upgrayedd
quote:
This may be completely off the wall, but...
I laugh at some of the conspiracy theories on this board but I don’t think this is off the wall at all.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:33 am to Jjdoc
quote:
“Even people who aren’t charged with major crimes could have their DNA put on file.
Oh the fricking horror...
How the frick do you sleep at night? Do you have a night light in your bunker in your mom's basement?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:34 am to upgrayedd
quote:
This may be completely off the wall, but...
What if they used this in the future for government-run healthcare purposes? They could choose not to treat you due to genetic predispositions, force you to have to pay extra, or make you seek outside care.
OR they could use it to say "you are not allowed to have a child because there is a chance it will be born less healthy than we want"
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:34 am to Ten Bears
quote:
Not saying that I agree with this, but how is this different from being photographed and providing fingerprints upon arrest?
Not being that guy, but they don't take blood samples on every arrest. Why stop at DNA? Take blood, fecal, footprints, inseam...
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:34 am to Jjdoc
Another Jjdoc thread based on a fake article from a questionable source.
Where do you even find this garbage?
Couple things, you link a British rag that posted an article yesterday. This bill was passed 18 months ago. August 2017. That should be red flag #1.
Also, if you bother to Google "Rapid DNA Act" you will find that the claims made by the British tabloid in your OP (every person arrested will be DNA swabbed, every baby born will be DNA swabbed) are found nowhere else.
Because they are fiction?
The purpose of the act is to speed up the DNA testing process from weeks or months to hours. As far as I can tell the act says nothing about who to take DNA from, it is merely trying to streamline the process that is already on place.
If you can find something that proves me wrong and supports your OP please link it here.
Otherwise this is just another one of your fake threads to get people bitching about something that never actually happened.
another source that doesnt mention anything from the OP
Where do you even find this garbage?
Couple things, you link a British rag that posted an article yesterday. This bill was passed 18 months ago. August 2017. That should be red flag #1.
Also, if you bother to Google "Rapid DNA Act" you will find that the claims made by the British tabloid in your OP (every person arrested will be DNA swabbed, every baby born will be DNA swabbed) are found nowhere else.
Because they are fiction?
The purpose of the act is to speed up the DNA testing process from weeks or months to hours. As far as I can tell the act says nothing about who to take DNA from, it is merely trying to streamline the process that is already on place.
If you can find something that proves me wrong and supports your OP please link it here.
Otherwise this is just another one of your fake threads to get people bitching about something that never actually happened.
another source that doesnt mention anything from the OP
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to The Maj
quote:
How the frick do you sleep at night? Do you have a night light in your bunker in your mom's basement?
Any escalation in the government's authority to invade your privacy without additional cause should not be taken lightly.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to Jjdoc
I think this is absolute horseshite, and should be deemed unconstitutional. However, is there any way that you could refuse a DNA test if they tried to give you one? Or invoked the fifth?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to Ten Bears
quote:
Not saying that I agree with this, but how is this different from being photographed and providing fingerprints upon arrest?
Because this isn’t pursuant to arrest. If it were, I imagine there wouldn’t be as much dissent here.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to Jjdoc
quote:
take DNA samples from people who are arrested but not yet convicted of a crime.
Don't like this at all. Very Oreillian
*Orweillian
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 11:36 am
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Good Lord.
Here’s an earth shattering, mind blowing recommendation to avoid the effects of this law: Don’t get arrested
This is the equivalent of “You should not care about a baseless search of your home, if you are doing nothing wrong.”
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to upgrayedd
You're on the wall here.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to Jjdoc
quote:
OR they could use it to say "you are not allowed to have a child because there is a chance it will be born less healthy than we want"
I also wonder how easy it is to replicate you DNA in order to plant it and frame someone of a crime
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to The Baker
As they could easily do with your fingerprint . Whats your point?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:35 am to AggieHank86
You shouldn’t
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