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re: FBI agents did not have clearance to view the documents they confiscated

Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14492 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:45 am to
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FBI agents did not have clearance to view the documents they confiscated by rebeloke

Think about it.

FBI agents have top secret security clearance. They are not remotely similar to local law enforcement.

Are you just making up your own “facts”?
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6149 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Someone ratted on trump and they knew exactly where and what they were looking for.


Then why did they occupy MAL for 9 hours??????????????
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
17613 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:53 am to
If they were looking for nuclear secrets... I'd be disappointed if low level agents were granted with "need to know".

Lot of prep time, and they believed nuclear secrets were involved... and they just sent low levels? They had weeks of prep time. Would take a few hours to get some higher grade agents flown in.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16589 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:57 am to
quote:

FBI agents have top secret security clearance. They are not remotely similar to local law enforcement.

Are you just making up your own “facts”?


With respect to Top Secret clearance, it is only a basic level screening necessary for certain jobs. Within the DoD and Department of State you have to have personal clearance to have access to certain programs, ops & docs.

You clearly do not have any experience with TS ops. Someone can have a TS clearance but that doesn’t mean they have the necessary clearance to view certain programs ops and docs.

I can promise you based on the low level of the FBI that executed this search and based on the low level judge that authorized it, it was not high enough to handle matters of National Security.

The FBI is not involved in most cases with the highest levels of National Security. That would be other 3 letter agencies.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12466 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:59 am to
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They had people who could verify it. Someone ratted on trump and they knew exactly where and what they were looking for. No two bit agent was responsible.


I thought I heard they didn’t read shite and just grabbed.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119853 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

They had people who could verify it.

No, they didn’t.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25418 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Someone ratted on trump and they knew exactly where and what they were looking for.



It was Don Jr. Notice Don Jr Jr is now carrying the water. Where is Don Jr?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17350 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Someone ratted on trump
quote:

Yup….I love him but I see he still trusts the wrong people.
very likely one of his lawyers. Shame too, he's got some young hotties working for him.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5099 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:05 am to
quote:

No two bit agent was responsible.


That's right. No two bit agent was responsible.
A two-bit FBI director and a two-bit AG were responsible.

This was 100% fabricated. They are scared shiteless of the MAGA machine.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:06 am to
As a normal citizen and not President, Trump no longer had the need to know. He shouldn't be in possession of TS documents.

I have a security clearance and need to know on a contract. I know how this works.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
104361 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:07 am to
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That doesn’t mean we can just throw shite at the wall and see if it sticks.


You mean like the Democrats have been doing for 6 years?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:09 am to
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Did local LEOs enter the premises and join in the search? Serious, neutral question. I hadn’t heard that
No. They provided crowd control outside.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92520 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:10 am to
quote:

FBI agents have a TS/SCI clearance and because they were conducting a raid, a need to know was present.


FFS this is overly general and not particularly accurate. I'm certain some FBI agents have TS/SCI clearance because they give them out like candy.

"Need to know" is the justification to be read on. If they were not "read on" for these particular documents (if they were, indeed, classified at the TS/SCI level), then someone is still liable for mishandling classified documents. The exact crime for which they're trying nail Trump.

And if they were "read on", prior to the raid, they knew exactly what it was.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:11 am to
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This is the part of PT where we play make believe and get whipped up into a frenzy over false shite.
Rinse and repeat.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119853 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:13 am to
quote:

He shouldn't be in possession of TS documents


Quick follow up question.
Has this issue arisen with every single modern President before Trump? Specifically documents and security and personal records from the Presidency.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119853 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:14 am to
quote:

They had clearance and a need to know.


That’s a lot of faith for an organization that hasn’t demonstrated any reason for the faith.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16589 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:15 am to
quote:

As a normal citizen and not President, Trump no longer had the need to know. He shouldn't be in possession of TS documents. I have a security clearance and need to know on a contract. I know how this works.

You want to know how I know you are FOS?

1) If you had a high level TS clearance for TS ops you would have signed a NDA and you wouldn’t talk about your job.

2) Just because you have a TS clearance for contracts doesn’t mean you know shite about National Security, the DoD or Dept of State.

3) it sure as hell doesn’t mean you know jack shite about POTUS security clearances.


Now, as POTUS DJT was not required to notify anyone who executed this search of his declassification or classification acts. For anyone who knows shite about this there is a 5 year period of transition that the POTUS is afforded to turn over requested documents. Just as an example we are still waiting of Barry to convert many thousands of docs to electronic format and turn them over.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
25418 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:18 am to
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If you had a high level TS clearance for TS ops




Tell us all about "TS ops" especially the DoD and State Dept
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16589 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Tell us all about "TS ops" especially the DoD and State Dept

I could tell you but then I’d have to kill you.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:28 am to
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Are you just making up your own “facts”?


That's exactly what he's doing.
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