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FB now helping laws pass (GUN CONTROL) by silencing people within states

Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:24 pm
As you heard from Zuck's own mouth, he took credit for helping Doug Jones get elected by censoring people on FB.

NOW you are seeing them get involved in silencing people who are making people aware of things coming up for vote.....Like Gun control.

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In Oregon, Initiative Petition 43 would ban 95% of the guns currently owned and require currently legal gun owners to turn in anything that would violate the new prospective law, while petition number 44 would result in grandpa being tossed in jail if someone steals his gun and uses it in a crime.




So what happens, They start banning groups that are pro the 2nd.

They blocked Oregon Firearms Federation founder and director Kevin Starrett from being able to post a few days ago.

No explanation.


LINK


Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:25 pm to
You're obsessed with facebook
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32804 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:28 pm to
Almost as if he’s not in favor of companies working to restrict constitutional rights. Crazy concept.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:28 pm to
My only question is why anyone would have a FB account.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:29 pm to
Facebook is what World Government looks like, works it way into your life smoothly, very little discomfort to the anesthetized
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20897 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:30 pm to
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Almost as if he’s not in favor of companies working to restrict constitutional rights.


If only companies could actually restrict constitutional rights.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:44 pm to
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You're obsessed with facebook


Society is obsessed with Facebook, which makes their censorship a problem.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:15 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:19 pm to
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You're obsessed with facebook


No...I'm Obsessed with freedom!
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:28 pm to
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Society is obsessed with Facebook, which makes their censorship a problem.



What solution would you suggest?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30194 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:31 pm to
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My only question is why anyone would have a FB account.



It's a pretty useful tool to keep up with friends and family.

But, you are so cool for having that stance
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:34 pm to
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No...I'm Obsessed with freedom!


But not Facebook's freedom as a corporation, apparently. I thought conservatives were supposed to be against government interference in business -- hence their opposition to things like the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

This thread seems to imply that the government should do something, which would require a new law drawing on the Commerce Clause (because political ideology is not covered in the aforementioned Civil Rights Act of 1964). This would, to say the least, be a somewhat hypocritical stance for any Republican or conservative to adopt.

So, and I ask this in all seriousness -- are you suggesting that we need a new law? If not, what are you suggesting we do about it?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

quote:
Society is obsessed with Facebook, which makes their censorship a problem.


What solution would you suggest?



I don’t have a solution to the problem, but identifying the problem is one step closer.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:43 pm to
quote:

I thought conservatives were supposed to be against government interference in business -- hence their opposition to things like the Civil Rights Act of 1964.


That was the democrats.


quote:

This thread seems to imply that the government should do something, which would require a new law drawing on the Commerce Clause (because political ideology is not covered in the aforementioned Civil Rights Act of 1964). This would, to say the least, be a somewhat hypocritical stance for any Republican or conservative to adopt.


No it wouldn't.

FB has violated sec 230 of CDA. They are now a publisher and should be subject to that.


Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117717 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:44 pm to
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and I ask this in all seriousness -- are you suggesting that we need a new law? If not, what are you suggesting we do about i



I suggest the MSM report this and make everyone aware. Be sort of like a watchdog for the citizenry so that they may make an informed decision about using Facebook.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:52 pm to
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FB has violated sec 230 of CDA. They are now a publisher and should be subject to that.


Admittedly, I am not an expert here. But a cursory search for CDA 230 shows it provides immunity to "interactive web services" for the speech of others. That means FB can't get in trouble for what people post on FB. However, I don't see how that means FB is unable to censor content.

Please explain how CDA 230 does that.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33940 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

I suggest the MSM report this and make everyone aware. Be sort of like a watchdog for the citizenry so that they may make an informed decision about using Facebook.


That seems like a reasonable approach.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:54 pm to
quote:

You're obsessed with facebook


Did it slip your mind that you flamed for 5 pages about companies taking sides on the gun control question in another thread just minutes ago, or are you just severely touched?
Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 10:02 pm to
It gives them immunity under the assumption that they are neutral to the speech. By censoring certain users they are no longer neutral.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90638 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 10:43 pm to
There's no way either of those laws would pass constitutional muster
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