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re: Father of US Marine arrested & deported after visiting pregnant daughter at military base

Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5086 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:19 pm to
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the couple came to the US from Mexico 30 years ago.


Sweet mother of pearl …Ya had 30 Gotdayum years to get it figured out. Hard to feel sorry for them.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24098 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:21 pm to
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I thought the whole point was to get the riff raff out?


Huh?

They all need to go.

We should have started with the dreamers to get the maximum teeth gnashing over with.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3757 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:36 pm to
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draining resources

Maybe they were utilizing resources to make a Marine.
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You are being emotional

Not really, I'm just pointing how how fricked up people can be.

You just have an obsessive agenda that knows no moral bounds.

w/e
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179561 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 7:40 pm to
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You just have an obsessive agenda that knows no moral bounds.


There are multiple reasons illegal immigration is morally wrong so you should really refrain from the morality argument if you are supporting illegal immigration.

The parents were her illegally. Having a Marine son doesn't negate that no matter how much you cry about it.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8904 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:07 pm to
Feel bad for both the mom and dad; however, if you:

1. Overstayed the date of the stamp in your foreign passport
2. Crossed into the USA with no documentation
3. Overstayed your visa

You may be sent home. If so, well, that’s how the law works
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46364 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:53 pm to
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thought the whole point was to get the riff raff out? Now we’re deporting families of Marines? Saying people who fought for this country and their families don’t belong?


He does, they don’t

Illegal is Illegal
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3757 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:06 pm to
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illegal immigration is morally wrong

I never excused his parents.

There's no good reason that Marine doesn't know where his mother is, or what his parents' status is. Don't we at least owe him that courtesy for his service?

You're just trying to rationalize immoral treatment for lawbreakers.

Do you also rationalize the immoral treatment of the January 6th Capitol trespassers because they were lawbreakers too? I bet not for reasons.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179561 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:28 pm to
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There's no good reason that Marine doesn't know where his mother is, or what his parents' status is. Don't we at least owe him that courtesy for his service?


Let's say that a Marine has parents who aren't illegal immigrants, but one of them breaks the law, say they kill someone while driving intoxicated, what courtesy do we owe them in that instance?

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You're just trying to rationalize immoral treatment for lawbreakers.


What's immoral about sending them back to their country?

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Do you also rationalize the immoral treatment of the January 6th Capitol trespassers because they were lawbreakers too?


Muh 1/6

Crazy that even after all we now know about 1/6 you libs still try to suck that teet dry as a gotcha

Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12123 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:31 pm to
To make an omelette, you have to break some eggs
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9046 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 8:59 am to
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Their own place in the world. Where are the brave and courageous ones? Don’t any of them have a sense of pride and dignity?


Risk facing a quick death from a bullet is one thing. Risk having yourself or your children be skinned alive while be injected with adrenaline so you dont pass out in pain...is something else. These cartels are brutal to the local populations that oppose them in ways you cannot imagine.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19852 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:25 am to
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I think we would need to invest a lot more in Central America.


I agree and disagree at the same time. We can’t do what we have done in the past and give US tax payer money without strings attached. That makes people to include our politicians very rich. It needs to be invested in a manner that benefits the US Sovereign Wealth Fund so there is some ROI for US Citizens and it needs to be monitored by somebody smart with business sense…..which means 75% of federal employees don’t qualify as!
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19852 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:30 am to
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You just have an obsessive agenda that knows no moral bounds.


Huh, so breaking the law and suffering the consequences is now having “no moral bounds”. Jesus, the participation trophy generations are killing this country’s ability to think in a rational manner!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18900 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:33 am to
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Don't we at least owe him that courtesy for his service?



Dumbasses like you can never grasp the simple fact that the US military is a voluntary service. He is owed nothing outside of his DD4. My father is a green card holder, I've been in the military for 27+ years, nothing in my service would excuse him from doing everything he is legally obligated to do to maintain his status.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56941 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:33 am to
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Their kids had time to to grow up, marry, get pregnant, become a Marine and Esteban couldn't make the time to become a legal citizen? Neither could the mom?


A few months back there was a thread about some woman who was in the US for like 40 years, but was detained because she was here illegally. I'll say the same thing as i did then, how have you not made ANY strides to be a legit citizen in 30 + years? That amount of incompetence is astounding to me.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56941 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:36 am to
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You're just trying to rationalize immoral treatment for lawbreakers.


What is immoral about detaining people who broke our laws?

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Do you also rationalize the immoral treatment of the January 6th Capitol trespassers because they were lawbreakers too?


a) what laws were broken?
b) please tell us the "immoral treatment" for the J6 people. I just want you to admit what the Biden admin did to them.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19852 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:37 am to
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You're just trying to rationalize immoral treatment for lawbreakers.


What is the immoral treatment for these law breakers? They will get a hearing in front of an immigration judge who will adjudicate what their fate is for being here for 30 years without trying to get their affairs in order.

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Do you also rationalize the immoral treatment of the January 6th Capitol trespassers because they were lawbreakers too?


Nice stretch to justify these illegals action (or reality inaction) but I have no problem with those that violated the laws on January 6th being held accountable. That means they should have speedy trails for charges commiserate to the actions. Did that occur with January 6th?
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19852 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:39 am to
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Dumbasses like you can never grasp the simple fact that the US military is a voluntary service. He is owed nothing outside of his DD4. My father is a green card holder, I've been in the military for 27+ years, nothing in my service would excuse him from doing everything he is legally obligated to do to maintain his status.


How/who would downvote this post? This is a first hand example of a guy currently serving in the same situation giving you real life facts!
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3254 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 9:56 am to
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I thought the whole point was to get the riff raff out? Now we’re deporting families of Marines? Saying people who fought for this country and their families don’t belong?
He can stay but his illegal parents have to go. I don’t believe it should be limited to only violent illegal aliens. Each and everyone should be systematically found, detained and deported.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3757 posts
Posted on 10/16/25 at 10:47 am to
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What is the immoral treatment for these law breakers?




It hasn't changed. It was wrong then, it's wrong now.

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That means they should have speedy trails for charges commiserate to the actions. Did that occur with January 6th?

No, the lawbreakers were treated immorally. But that's okay since they're criminals, amirite?

You don't have to disappear illegal immigrants in the middle of the night through force of arms.

But there's really no discussing the points of what a veteran deserves, and what treatment humans deserve in general, with people that have a political agenda and are trying to rationalize the use of terror for political goals.
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