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re: Father of US Marine arrested & deported after visiting pregnant daughter at military base

Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:12 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:12 am to
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Well, it worked on me...


You are smarter than that.

They had decades to become legal citizens and only started the process once Trump was in office. During those decades, they probably took more than they ever contributed and were a net negative in America. Just because their offspring joined the Marines does not negate all of that or make the laws they broke coming here unenforceable.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25114 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:13 am to
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I thought the whole point was to get the riff raff out? Now we’re deporting families of Marines? Saying people who fought for this country and their families don’t belong?


It is to get the riff raff out. The law shouldn't be selectively enforced. His parents have been in the country for 30 years and couldn't be bothered to go about obtaining legal status in that time frame? Also kind of ballsy to be coming and going from a military base knowing that you're not in the country legally.

By your logic, what other laws should parents of service members be exempted from following?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:17 am to
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Well, it worked on me...


You are smarter than that.
All evidence to the contrary...

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they probably took more than they ever contributed
Contributing two sons to the U.S. Marines to fight for our country and for you and me says otherwise.

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Just because their offspring joined the Marines does not negate all of that
Yeah, to me, it kinda does...
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179404 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:19 am to
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Contributing two sons to the U.S. Marines to fight for our country and for you and me says otherwise.



One son. The daughter only married a Marine

FYI, he will probably never actually "fight for our country" but yes he has a job as Marine.


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Yeah, to me, it kinda does...



Nope. Sorry. We have laws and borders for a reason. Without those we don't have a country.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 10:21 am
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19830 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:21 am to
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Yeah, to me, it kinda does...


Did you earn an EGA? If not STFU.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
1734 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:25 am to
And again…a white woman.

Sigh.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
58609 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:25 am to
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They were here illegally for dozens of years but didn't commit any other crimes and were now trying to do the right thing. If leeway is going to be given, I would give it for instances like this.


I just chuckle at these soft beta types. They didn't do nuffin doe
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:30 am to
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One son. The daughter only married a Marine
I stand corrected. So the parents contributed one-and-a-half sons to the Marines.

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FYI, he will probably never actually "fight for our country"

You're making an assumption. I was going by the text from the link you provided.
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after spending four years on active duty
I guess confirmation bias convinces you that statement means he spent four years peeling potatoes on a U.S. Marine base. To me, the odds are he had at least one foreign deployment.

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Without those we don't have a country.
I wonder what type of country we'd have if we didn't have U.S. Marines protecting us?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:31 am to
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If not STFU.
Thanks, but I don't think I will...
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154573 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:32 am to
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Just because their offspring joined the Marines does not negate all of that Yeah, to me, it kinda does...


I’d be in your side if that was put into law.

8 years in the service and both parents can get to the front of the line.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:37 am to
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8 years in the service and both parents can get to the front of the line.
That's what I'm saying, too.

It seems to me the parents should get a partial mulligan and should be given immediate consideration for citizenship or at least a permanent work visa considering their circumstances.

If the parents aren't willing to go through that process, then ship them back home.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154573 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:39 am to
Right. But it needs to be codified.

I don’t think the majority here would be against that.

But, that’s not the law now. They have to go.

Just like in every other country.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179404 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:40 am to
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I stand corrected. So the parents contributed one-and-a-half sons to the Marines.


What? How were the parents responsible for the son-in-law? Did they guide the SIL's dad into his mom by hand or something?

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I wonder what type of country we'd have if we didn't have U.S. Marines protecting us?


What a silly counterpoint. For that to have any bearing on this argument, you would have to think that we could not fill out our military without accepting illegals dropping anchor babies with the hopes that one day those kids will serve.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
5753 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:40 am to
I get your compassion but that is the root of the entire immigration problem we find ourselves in as a nation. Compassion and empathy have trumped common sense and rule of law.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112448 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:41 am to
Too bad.

My "giveafrick" tank is empty.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8047 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:44 am to
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8 years in the service and both parents can get to the front of the line.
That's what I'm saying, too.

It seems to me the parents should get a partial mulligan and should be given immediate consideration for citizenship or at least a permanent work visa considering their circumstances.

If the parents aren't willing to go through that process, then ship them back home.

well, that's not the law. so your compassion, while noted, is pointless. and that kind of thinking is what led us into this mess where the entire country gets manipulated into thinking with their feelings instead of their brains.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54859 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:46 am to
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My son is in the Army. What laws am I allowed to break?


You know that depends on your skin color
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53709 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:48 am to
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Their kids had time to to grow up, marry, get pregnant, become a Marine and Esteban couldn't make the time to become a legal citizen? Neither could the mom?

It was much easier to become a citizen 20 years ago yet they never tried.



This ^^^^ is how you know most of these illegals, particularly the ones from Central and South America have no desire to assimilate to a common culture and language of the US. If they are being honest they would admit the goal is to bring their language and culture to the US to dilute the American culture that has been 300 years in the making.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
40978 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:48 am to
No. The whole point is to get illegals out. If you had that long to get legal and you didn't..... Bye Felecia.

Criminals was step one. I never saw anything that would lead me to believe they would only go after violent criminals.

Illegal = bye bye.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 10:52 am to
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you would have to think that we could not fill out our military without accepting illegals dropping anchor babies with the hopes that one day those kids will serve.
Talk about a "silly counterpoint"!!!

I'm not saying the dad gets a free pass for entering the country illegally (30 years ago, which means in the last millennium).

But there should be an expedited path to becoming legal which recognizes his son's (and son-in-law's) service to our country.

For all we know those Marines and their dad voted MAGA since a majority of service members voted for Trump.

Arresting them (twice!) and then shipping them back seems a bit radical to me.
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