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re: Family member about to die from The China flu.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:24 pm to Pussykat
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:24 pm to Pussykat
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My greatest fear about Covid is medical people who let politics influence their medical treatments.
What are your thoughts on stem cell therapy and the use of fetal tissue in developing treatments?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:25 pm to gamatt53
Those are ethical questions not necessarily political.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:25 pm to griswold
Sorry man. Despite them saying they don’t want deaths they actually do.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:26 pm to roadGator
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Those are ethical questions not necessarily political.
Lol
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:27 pm to gamatt53
Weird. You don’t think using torn up tiny human tissue to be an ethical issue?
Typical radical leftist.
Typical radical leftist.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:30 pm to roadGator
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Typical radical leftist.
Why are you injecting politics into the discussion of medics treatment? it’s almost like you are letting politics influence
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:32 pm to gamatt53
Why are you asking ethics questions on a political board?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:38 pm to griswold
I would sign out AMA and go to a hospital that will treat me. Do all the research before checking out, obviously.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:40 pm to griswold
Prayers for your family.
What a sad thread. The usual lib idiots show up and show their lack of human decency.
OP has every right to complain. The Dems, media and Fauci all jumped out against HCQ just because Trump mentioned it might have some merit.
Sure it is probably too late now, but who is to say he wasn't asking for it much earlier and was denied. No one can deny that the left is against the med just because Trump mentioned it. If you do, you are a liar.
The med has mixed results, but has helped thousands of people. I would say if any of us or our loved ones were sick enough with this disease to require treatment we would be asking for it.
What a sad thread. The usual lib idiots show up and show their lack of human decency.
OP has every right to complain. The Dems, media and Fauci all jumped out against HCQ just because Trump mentioned it might have some merit.
Sure it is probably too late now, but who is to say he wasn't asking for it much earlier and was denied. No one can deny that the left is against the med just because Trump mentioned it. If you do, you are a liar.
The med has mixed results, but has helped thousands of people. I would say if any of us or our loved ones were sick enough with this disease to require treatment we would be asking for it.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:43 pm to gamatt53
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What are your thoughts on stem cell therapy and the use of fetal tissue in developing treatments?
My response was directed at treatment of Covid.
In the case of a this pandemic, sadly it seems use of HCQ medical treatment is sometimes deemed inappropriate based on OMB’s support. Mandates from FDA, AMA, CDC against its use seems political when many Doctors have used it with great success, particularly when used early. Much is NOT known about Covid, if a patient has little or no hope of recovery and they choose to take a medication, why shouldnt they be able to.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:43 pm to Diamondawg
Late stage is too late for hcq. Hcq is best when given early.
At this point the issue is not stopping the virus. It's stopping the massive overreaction of the immune system in the lungs.
Steroids have been found to be helpful, but again better than when they are this far.
All drugs are better earlier than at this point.
It's the cytokine storm in the lungs causing issues now and all the downstream issues from that rather than the virus.
I hope he pulls through.
At this point the issue is not stopping the virus. It's stopping the massive overreaction of the immune system in the lungs.
Steroids have been found to be helpful, but again better than when they are this far.
All drugs are better earlier than at this point.
It's the cytokine storm in the lungs causing issues now and all the downstream issues from that rather than the virus.
I hope he pulls through.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:45 pm to griswold
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IMO the vents are a death sentence
Only because when it gets to that point they're really sick...
However, vents can be a life saver as well... I've seen a lot of our covid vented pt's walk out of the hospital...
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:46 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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What a sad thread. The usual lib idiots show up and show their lack of human decency.
Nobody wished him or his family member ill. Nobody attacked him. Some of you are truly delusional.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:48 pm to griswold
That sucks. I would have a medical malpractice attorney send them a letter asking for clarification on the reasons not to try HCQ.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:00 pm to Jorts R Us
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Nobody attacked him
Hmmm...
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I'm deeply confused about whatever your rant is here.
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Just how big a piece of shite are you?
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Even in the face of death, you trumptards will always shift blame
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how many years of medical training do you have under your belt?
Certainly doesn't look like compassion and understanding to me. Definitely looks like an attack.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:01 pm to NC_Tigah
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Hospital administrators and procurement officers just need to get off their asses, pick up the phone and call facilities in other regions. NC facilities have remdesivir. Midwestern facilities have plenty.
Isn’t the government controlling distribution or did that change?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:12 pm to griswold
LINK
LINK
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There’s still no proven treatment for COVID-19. Yet, the immune system’s reaction and the inflammatory response known as the cytokine storm is something Dr. Reed Hogan and GI Associates were familiar with. Because the drugs are historically safe and there’s a lack of other proven therapies, Dr. John Studdard and the physician practice group, Jackson Pulmonary Associates, agreed to try the treatment in critically-ill patients. “If we didn’t have utmost faith that we could modify the cytokine storm, we never would’ve entered into possibly thinking, a bunch of GI and pulmonary docs in Jackson, Mississippi treat coronavirus,” explained Dr. Reed Hogan,II.
LINK
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:18 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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Certainly doesn't look like compassion and understanding to me. Definitely looks like an attack.
You're right. You had one or two posters attack him. But half of your examples are extreme reaches and you conveniently leave out the parts of the post where those posters wished him well.
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how many years of medical training do you have under your belt?
Is hardly an attack.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:26 pm to Jorts R Us
“Show some human decency” says the man upvoting videos of protestors being blinded by tear gas canisters
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