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J2thaROC
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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Bet you would sky scream if they wore patches supporting law enforcement


Why? It’s all insignificant.


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J2thaROC
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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It’s not about the stupid patches, it’s the bigger implications of this entire bull shite movement. I don’t see how that is so difficult to understand.


What are the “implications of this entire movement” exactly? In detail, with credible citations please.


Gravitiger
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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If state schools are controlling the content via the conferences how are there no state actors? I hope you aren’t a lawyer.
The Supreme Court has said repeatedly that conferences and the NCAA itself are not state actors. I hope you aren't a lawyer.
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Gravitiger
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No institution is going to have to regulate football or basketball messages. They are not going to be individualized. There will only be one message per team per game. Players can either wear it, or not. This guarantees all messages will be left wing, unless a hockey or baseball team wear MAGA patches.
Agree 100%. They will have unified messages or no messages.


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LSUChamps03
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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What are the “implications of this entire movement” exactly? In detail, with credible citations please.


The “movement” is the apparent removal of one side of an argument and only allowing support for the other. The suggestion that there is no social justice in this day and age is one that I don’t believe is supported by relevant statistics or truth. The left including its media will point to anecdotal instances such as George Floyd, Rodney King, Trayvon Martin and allege widespread racism runs rampant. But the numbers don’t bear that out. However, since May 25th it’s apparent to me that racism IS very real - it’s just that as a white man I’m watching it turn directly against me.

The “credible source” is the very news media you likely believe and support 100%. No, the media isn’t credible, but it’s presentation of the “news” is all the documentary evidence I need or any open-minded person should need to see what is happening in this country.

The implications? Racists speak horrible threats and hatred towards white men and women solely based on skin color. I’m white, so by default the prejudice is that I grew up in wealth, I’m racist against black folks, I owe reparations, and I must recognize some imaginary privilege I can damn well guarantee I’ve never seen! These hate-spewing folks get the support of professional sports, leading politicians, employers, you name it. But the 28 year sportscaster is forced to resign his job because, only after being asked, he replies that “all lives matter.” How date he say that?! And that’s one example, we’ve all hear the myriad others.

So where do we go from here? Well the more the things you consider “meaningless”, such as SJW nameplates in jerseys, begin to stack up the less rights many with opposing will have to speak freely. The threat to livelihoods are impacted. Physical harm is threatened to those who offer differing opinions.

Now you tell me the implications of these things going on and on without limit. If you don’t see it you’re being dishonest with yourself. Tell me the result of continuing in the current path. Do you see the double standard being perpetrated by people in high places? Or are you choosing to ignore it because you’re on the side of those with free speech?

We don’t have to agree on politics - budget, education, military spending, immigration. This is about freedom and having it ripped away by those who want to turn the world’s greatest ever country into a fascist shitehole because they don’t want their feelings hurt about their beliefs but want to be able to shite on mine.

It’s real rich to see someone throw the “vag” tag from the largest collection of crybabies and snowflakes ever assembled.



atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
it’s a massive mistake for entertainment organizations to get political. I will no longer watch one single second of the NFL and NBA. Not one.

The NCAA is taking a massive risk, and one they don’t need to take. Simply say they’re not a political organization and leave it at that.

But they’re cowards, just like all the rest.


atltiger6487
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As long as they perform for you just like ‘ol Fiddler in “Roots”.
they’re performing voluntarily. And getting a free education to do it.


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GoDeepCoach
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
What’s funny is that BLM is not about black lives. ANTIFA is not about “anti fascism”. It’s simply a Marxist movement hell bent on destroying America. They use the George Floyd murder as an excuse to start their shite. They are funded by Marxist groups including George Soros. It is well coordinated and funded. It is an evil movement. The evil one controls the leftists and the University liberal professors have brain washed so many of our young. They want to create fear. That’s why everyone seems to be bowing down to them. It’s politically correct. The NCAA bows down to them. It won’t last long. They are punks. When Trump decides to stop it, it will stop. They will run for cover. Things will go back to normal. History seems to be circular. What comes around goes around.


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LSUChamps03
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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The NCAA is taking a massive risk, and one they don’t need to take. Simply say they’re not a political organization and leave it at that.


And I think that is why so many are bothered by this. Sports has always been an outlet for folks from the grind of daily life. Many are bothered by the infiltration of politics into gameday, on the fields of play no less!

I understand the other side sees different - it’s another way to further its cause. I see that it will erode much of the enjoyment derived from the competition and lead to many walking away. I hate the thought of giving up the Saints, LSU, etc., but at some point there are more important things.


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ibldprplgld
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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What happens when the first player puts a red MAGA patch on


"Blue Lives Matter" should be enough to get a lawsuit going. I'd like to know which player tries it first, bc he's gonna make a mint when he wins the suit.


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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
Good point


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Penrod
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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You are the only racist I ever see posting on here

Lester is, occupationally, a douche, but there are A LOT of racists posting here.


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GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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The Supreme Court has said repeatedly that conferences and the NCAA itself are not state actors. I hope you aren't a lawyer.


Not sure what this means, the NCAA/conferences regularly operate in the States. Just because the
"Ncaa" comes out with a policy doesn't mean the schools can operate under those policies without regard to State or Federal law.

As far as big time college sports i.e. football, basketball, etc. those are coming to an end as there really is no way of regulating those now i.e. pay to play.

2019 was about it for big time college sports. Let's be honest the schools have been operating a criminal racket via the NCAA for way too long.
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Python
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
Great post. I was just going to call him an idiot but I like your response better.


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Gravitiger
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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Not sure what this means, the NCAA/conferences regularly operate in the States. Just because the
"Ncaa" comes out with a policy doesn't mean the schools can operate under those policies without regard to State or Federal law.

As far as big time college sports i.e. football, basketball, etc. those are coming to an end as there really is no way of regulating those now i.e. pay to play.

2019 was about it for big time college sports. Let's be honest the schools have been operating a criminal racket via the NCAA for way too long.
Then you have no business in this discussion. All businesses "regularly operate in the states." That doesn't subject them all to the First Amendment.

Again, SCOTUS has held multiple times that the NCAA and athletic conferences are not state actors. Also again, if public schools regulate speech content, that is a whole different issue. Because they are state actors.

What you are saying is legal gibberish (except for the idea that the NCAA is basically a legalized cartel).
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Summer of George
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
Well you sound dumb as frick


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Summer of George
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
Stfu tard


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GeauxFightingTigers1
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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Then you have no business in this discussion. All businesses "regularly operate in the states." That doesn't subject them all to the First Amendment.

Again, SCOTUS has held multiple times that the NCAA and athletic conferences are not state actors. Also again, if public schools regulate speech content, that is a whole different issue. Because they are state actors.

What you are saying is legal gibberish (except for the idea that the NCAA is basically a legalized cartel).


If they operate in the State they could be subject to state law, the end. If the schools are restricting speech through an association there are already statutory laws on the books to handle that i.e. anti-trust/rico laws at the federal and state level. Where an association is part of the State government most likely immaterial, the schools have formed a cartel and can't hide behind the cartel forever... which is why the players about to get paid. Gravy train is over.

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What you are saying is legal gibberish (except for the idea that the NCAA is basically a legalized cartel).


What you are talking about I never actually mentioned so what you are speaking moran (intended) legal speak.

No need to get your panties in a bunch, the NCAA and big time college sports is basically over anyway.
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LCTFAN
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re: Expect litigation if NCAA exerts viewpoint discrimination on jersey messages
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J2thaROC
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Both have gained in popularity over the last decade.



LINK

One article to dispute your statement and of course if its written then it must be true.


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WhoDatNC
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Complete shite if this happens.


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