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re: Exit polls released out of Germany
Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:55 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:55 pm to Indefatigable
Looks like the old East German states should split off and form their own country.
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:58 pm to ItTakesAThief
They’re too poor for that, in the same way the DDR was.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:08 pm to Indefatigable
The AfD is gaining ground. Sometime soon the breaking point will be reached with the population that embodies Make Germany Great Again. They’ll keep gaining people for their cause the more things get bad and the other side will feel the blow back.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:11 pm to hawgfaninc
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The AfD is gaining ground
No doubt. But they do have a ceiling. They aren’t going to gain footholds in the major population centers in the Ruhr or in SW Germany, or in Bavaria. I don’t know that they’ll be able to gain a majority.
I don’t believe any party has won an outright majority in the Bundestag since West Germany was founded. It’s a fully multi party system. If it’s happened, it’s very rare and hasn’t happened since unification. Coalitions are the name of the game in Germany. AfD will eventually have to make concessions to be included in government or elect a chancellor.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:11 pm to SirWinston
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We need higher. Hopefully there's a shy Musk effect
Expectations were 20%.
True, but all that is needed is to be in 2nd place I believe. I think the second place party has almost as much power as the winner in Germany
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:14 pm to TDTOM
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What does this mean?
It means a conservative, nationalist and populist movement is sweeping through Germany. Don't think I've seen this one before...
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:14 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
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I think the second place party has almost as much power as the winner in Germany
Nah. If Union, SPD, and the Greens form a government, those three can do whatever they want without AfD (or Linke or FDP)
Where it gets interesting is if the CDU/CSU needs AfD votes to pass immigration reform.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:18 pm to Average_Comments
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LMAO. Can't wait for the reactions on this board when the new conservatives in Germany play hardball with Russia
Please explain how you think the Germans play hardball with anyone? They have no money. They have a military that can’t even protect themselves. They can barely keep the lights on and they depend on others for energy. 1/5 of all Germans now live in poverty. Please what are they gonna do? Throw some mean commie slogans at them? Only way they can even give Ukraine money is to issue bonds. That’s gonna go over like gang busters with the starving cold Germans.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:24 pm to Indefatigable
CDU would align with AFD as that’s an overwhelming connection vs anything else. AFD is capturing a large portion of seats .
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:25 pm to ItTakesAThief
AfD is pro Trump
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:25 pm to Nosevens
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CDU would align with AFD as that’s an overwhelming connection vs anything else. AFD is capturing a large portion of seats .
Ideally sure, not sure they would do so if it meant losing the governing coalition with SPD and forcing another election.
They absolutely will not be forming a government with AfD. CDU/CSU would lose half its membership, if not more and thus be out of the majority.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:I definitely wouldn't be posting in absolutes here. If the AFD continues to gain popular support you might begin to see a schism in the CDU, that could potentially steer them into tacit, or even outright support of AFD policy.
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This is a huge night for AFD
In terms of symbolism/virtue signaling? Yes
In terms of governance? No
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:52 pm to northshorebamaman
Posting this again because it’s relevant
AFD in light blue
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If tweet fails to load, click here. AFD in light blue
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:53 pm to Lima Whiskey
BREAKING: Splitting Germany for 50 years left behind political, economic, and social consequences.
Who would have ever thought this was possible??!?!
More news at 11
Who would have ever thought this was possible??!?!
More news at 11
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:56 pm to TDTOM
OMG we are returning to Nazi Party times, lol. That’s all we are about to hear for the next few days.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:58 pm to Lima Whiskey
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AFD in light blue
Amazing how people who have been subjected to Marxist tyranny (Cubans and Venezuelans in FL similar) make much more informed votes than those who have lived under quasi democracies.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:02 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Yeah, it's pretty obviously divided between former East and West Germany. Not sure why the map is a surprise to anyone. Be willing to bet their election maps have been mostly divided in the same way since reunification.
BREAKING: Splitting Germany for 50 years left behind political, economic, and social consequences.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:06 pm to northshorebamaman
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Be willing to bet their election maps have been mostly divided in the same way since reunification.
You'd win that bet. The only new development is that its the AfD in former East Germany as opposed to either the far left parties (with ties to the former Communist Party) or the SPD as it was in the past.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:24 pm to hawgfaninc
Unfortunately CDU won’t coalition with AFD like they should
Posted on 2/23/25 at 3:27 pm to deltaland
They’d lose many of their own members if they did so, thereby losing the majority for the coalition. It’s not that simple.
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