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Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:10 pm to JuiceTerry
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America at large, but especially its current regime, gives zero fricks about solar energy
This shows you're truly a disingenuous frick. You're one of those people that believes there is an active collusion against your world view. That it's just mean old Republicans that hate progress, or the world would work the exact way your fairy tale thinks it does, right? Texas is an oil and gas production powerhouse. We've surpassed Saudi Arabia in production in the past ten years and might again soon. Any yet, we also lead the country in wind generation.
I'm sorry supply and demand doesn't work at the speed of your narrative, but some of us want alternatives to be actually useful. Wind is by and large, somewhat viable. Solar hasn't been, even when liberals that have no understanding of the world like yourself, enact psychotic policies like in California.
I'm sure you could even google, "Germany Green Energy" and spend ten minutes learning about how fricking stupid you sound, but we all know you won't.
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It's ridiculous to hate on China for taking advantage of American apathy
Lolz. Apathy. Why don't you take advantage of it, then? Open up a solar business. All this apathy lying around, but Hillary won the popular vote, especially in sunny California. You have a built in customer base. Go ahead. You'll be a billionaire laughing at the rest of us all the way to the bank.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:12 pm to TeLeFaWx
This is why Russia pushed very hard for the USA o trade with nations that are communists.
It's in the 45 stated goals for the USA.
You can not compete without doing what they do.... That means giving up democracy for 100% socialism where the gov owns most everything.
If you trde with them, they will BK your businesses.
Your options are
1- Don't trade with nations that will use that practice.
2- Become them to compete and that means gov owns you.
3- When they do these things being willing to fight them.
It's in the 45 stated goals for the USA.
You can not compete without doing what they do.... That means giving up democracy for 100% socialism where the gov owns most everything.
If you trde with them, they will BK your businesses.
Your options are
1- Don't trade with nations that will use that practice.
2- Become them to compete and that means gov owns you.
3- When they do these things being willing to fight them.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:12 pm to Bass Tiger
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You're the smartest dumb guy on this forum, congratulations
You're a contributing member of the group of pussies who routinely post in threads to attack me without addressing my actual post content, congratulations.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:14 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:That's a hell of a melt that has nothing to do with the subject
You're one of those people that believes there is an active collusion against your world view. That it's just mean old Republicans that hate progress, or the world would work the exact way your fairy tale thinks it does, right? Texas is an oil and gas production powerhouse. We've surpassed Saudi Arabia in production in the past ten years and might again soon.
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Lolz. Apathy. Why don't you take advantage of it, then? Open up a solar business. All this apathy lying around, but Hillary won the popular vote, especially in sunny California. You have a built in customer base. Go ahead. You'll be a billionaire laughing at the rest of us all the way to the bank.
Just gibberish So why are we
about China dominating the solar market? quote:So why are we
I'm sorry supply and demand doesn't work at the speed of your narrative, but some of us want alternatives to be actually useful. Wind is by and large, somewhat viable. Solar hasn't been, even when liberals that have no understanding of the world like yourself, enact psychotic policies like in California.
about China dominating the solar market? This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:14 pm to TeLeFaWx
You asked a virtue signalling sjw/troll to take action. Lol
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:18 pm to JuiceTerry
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That's a hell of a melt that has nothing to do with the subject
The subject was "America caring about solar", and even the current administration. Your stupidity was the subject. It was right on point.
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Just gibberish
Lolz.
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So why are we about China dominating the solar market?
Because it's an example of their unfair trade practices.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:22 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Because it's an example of their unfair trade practices.
No, it's not You just said yourself that solar is not viable (it is)
China GAF about developing solar, USA doesn't
That's not unfair, quit
The Trumpian victim mentality is embarrassing as shite
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:24 pm to JuiceTerry
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ust gibberish So why are we about China dominating the solar market?
Nobody is crying about. I used it as just 1 example of China, with purpose, trying to break the USA. It's you that wants to derail the topic because you are ok with it.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:25 pm to TeLeFaWx
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TeLeFaWx
He's a hack, and he's not going to address the topic. Several here won't.
He knows you are right, he just needs you to be wrong.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:26 pm to 90proofprofessional
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You're a contributing member of the group of pussies who routinely post in threads to attack me without addressing my actual post content, congratulations.
Hi Kettle!
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:28 pm to JuiceTerry
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quote:Because it's an example of their unfair trade practices. No, it's not
Yes it is. But I expect nothing less than this from you. You love socialism in it's totality!
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:31 pm to JuiceTerry
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No, it's not
Overproduction is not good for anyone but China. So... Yes. It is.
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You just said yourself that solar is not viable
Not at the levels that Obama's corrupt Democratic machine wanted it to be. Since like, they used billions of tax payer dollars to write checks to fund ridiculous salaries and produce zero value to promote their world view and line their pockets. Crooks. All of them.
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(it is)
Germany. California. And now you're conflating the concepts and proving my initial assertion. You think it's viable, but mean old Republicans don't care. Why doesn't that same apathy stop wind farmers in red Texas? If it's viable, get rich off of it like the wind farmers. Just start producing solar panels. Take out a loan. Build a factory. Sell them.
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China GAF about developing solar, USA doesn't
They GAF about dominating a global market that requires manufacturing, gaining social equity in the international community filled with lunatics that will somehow make you forget their coal fire plants are still being massed produced and people like you will champion them because you're so deranged you can't see the forest through the trees.
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That's not unfair, quit
Yes. It is.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:43 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:That you keep suggesting is unviable
They GAF about dominating a global market
And you think that is "unfair"
Because you're a Trumpian Victim
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:51 pm to mahdragonz
Let me break it down real simple for you. You own a business selling X. In order to turn a profit and keep your business open, you have to sell X at a certain price. Let’s say in this case it’s 100 dollars per unit. Now your competition decides they want in on the business, only they are going to sell an their product at 25 dollars a unit and the govt is going to cover the extra 75 dollars. How are you going to stay in business? Not only that, your business fails because you can’t compete with such tactics and your competition buys your company and all of its technology and raises their prices back to 100 dollars. They now control the market. They’ve put their competition out of business and they have discouraged any new competition from entering the market because they can’t compete with such tactics.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:53 pm to JuiceTerry
This reminds of the fall of Segway as a once profitable American company. Ninebot now controls the market. In short, the design was supposely stolen and copied. Ninebot, after "creating" their version, seems to have been supported majorly via massive subsidies. Then, after killing sales for Segway, Ninebot evidenly jumped up the price making them suddenly profitable. Segway sued in China (a pointless move historiclly). The end result, Ninebot used their profits (after virtually monopolizing the industry), to buy Segway. Bye-bye lawsuit, hello to cornering a market for the foreseeable future. This is one alleged example. I'm sure there are countless others. In short, you comparing American subsidies...no matter how large, to the unlimited pockets of the Chinese government, is disingenuous imo. The process needed to secure those subsidies in the US can be daunting. In China, it can be quite efficient. In short, it seems the goal is pretty much always the same, theft as opposed to innovation (saving a fortune in the process), and then subsidize to the point of a monopoly (or dominance of a market), raise the price to increase profits, then reinvest the profits into the next takeover. You have to give it to China, what they do works great for them. Us...not so much.
This post was edited on 4/7/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:55 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Competition was smarter, they win
Plain and simple
Plain and simple
Posted on 4/7/18 at 1:55 pm to Jjdoc
lmao
Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:00 pm to JuiceTerry
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That you keep suggesting is unviable
It's currently unviable at the levels want it to be and will be even more unviable with China's continued trade practices.
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And you think that is "unfair"
Overproduction and dumping of products is unfair. Yes. It was unfair when the Japanese did it to the semiconductor market and Reagan imposed tariffs to stop it. What about this is so difficult to understand.
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Because you're a Trumpian Victim
Your lack of intelligence is startling and it saddens me you actually think you know what you're talking about. The willingness to be so obtuse is truly Orwellian.
Posted on 4/7/18 at 2:02 pm to cokebottleag
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Muh free market....
You believe state run entities are part of the free market?
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