re: Exactly how did Zelensky start his war with Russia?

While I am no geopolitical scholar, I’m smart enough to know this war started long before 3 years ago.

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I wonder why?

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Somewhere on a scale from threats from Russia (to withhold natural gas) to being a full-fledged puppet of Putin (which is Putin's MO)

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With the MSM being propped up by the CIA to be a propaganda machine for promoting EU integration. The Ukrainian population eventually bought it.

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No. It was popular because the EU is modernity. Russia is their traditional historical subjugation without opportunity to advance (as even Russia itself has rejected economic development)

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Well of course they were. Money laundering and NGO financing which would make all of them rich just like the politicians here.

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You don't need EU integration for this, as seen by...Ukraine post-2014 which wasn't integrated with the EU.

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There are MANY that were involved or have first hand knowledge of what happened. T

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I've yet to see anything of any legitimate sourcing from 2013.

Almost all citations are from after Maidan had begun, in 2014, which throws the whole "The US created the coup" narrative out of the window.

If Maidan was an organic reaction to Yanukovych's unilateral action, then the coup narrative dissolves almost entirely. All you're left with is the West participating in reforming the government once Yanukovych was ousted, which isn't shocking, considering the focal point of the dispute is Western integration by Ukraine.

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Did you miss the part where Ukraine has been begging to join the NATO and Putin saying he didn't want NATO on his doorstep?

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Did you miss the part where Putin already had NATO "on his doorstep" with Estonia and Latvia joining NATO in March, 2004? Both of those countries share a border with Russia.

And technically Poland (which joined NATO in 1999) and Lithuania (joined NATO in 2004) also share a border with Russia since they border the Russian enclave of Kalingrad.

The "Russia attacked Ukraine to keep NATO off their border" excuse by Putin is bullshite.

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The "Russia attacked Ukraine to keep NATO off their border" excuse by Putin is bullshite.

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Clearly

Especially since it led Finland joining NATO, which was easily foreseeable to a strategist like Putin.

So what would be the chess equivalent in terms of NATO? Taking a knight and giving up a rook in exchange? Not a +EV decision at all. This is also ignoring regional actors like Sweden joining NATO. Then you're getting into pawn for queen territory.

here's the good news jethrine it's over now, he's going to stand for reelection and he'll lose. russia is going to annex a third of the country and the UNIPARTY is left with egg on it's face! another humiliating defeat for the UNIPARTY but a win for the american people.

the losses are really starting to add up. you phaggots should find a new hobby because you sux at war.

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here's the good news jethrine it's over now

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It's never "over" with Russia under Putin

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and the UNIPARTY is left with egg on it's face! another humiliating defeat for the UNIPARTY but a win for the american people.

the losses are really starting to add up. you phaggots should find a new hobby because you sux at war.

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Oh. I didn't realize you were retarded.

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He didn’t. ButTrump said it and much of this board is trying to rationalize it. It’s crazy when you think about it. Politics has become sport here and in much of the country. Choose a side and go hard no matter what the lies are

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Well said.

"Money laundering" is a perfect example. The talking heads floated it out and it caught.

Exhibit A there was no money laundering: Trump. The man that sells NFTs, cologne, bibles, worthless "college" degrees, steaks, tennis shoes, Trump "coins" etc would have been a willing participant in a state sponsored laundering operation.

Pushing for NATO membership.


Next dumbass question.

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EU integration was highly popular with the Ukrainian population. That's a fact

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Wrong....Austerity and Privatization of Land was not popular with the Ukrainian population

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The Maidan Coup led by the CIA/Victoria Nuland's state department is not evidence EU integration was popular.

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Oh. I didn't realize you were retarded.

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in other words you couldn't think of anything else to say, you can go back to pretending to be a lawyer now jethrine you're excused.