re: Everything isn't political or social.

We have been having a series of corporate “town halls” to openly discuss the horrors of racism...

Blacks are very vocal and angry about their “experiences” within the company. Here are some of what’s been aggrieved-

- I have to bite my tongue and not say what I really think
- I am tired of walking into a meeting and seeing Very few people that look like me
- there needs to be more black leadership
- I work twice as hard as all my peers and get half as far
- my ideas arent accepted as quickly as somebody who is white
- I have to act white to fit in


This kinda stuff is a common experience for almost everyone. We all have to compromise to keep our jobs and acting in a professional manner isn’t racism.

Black fragility is a very real thing.

Perception is reality for most people unfortunately

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Agree - you too have proved my point. But it works on both sides.

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I have no idea what your point is.

A discussion can be had with me about anything. However, if someone begins a discussion with me that starts with my being evil based on the characteristics of mine which I can not alter, that I can't actually disagree with them when they start because I can't have a valid point BECAUSE of these same characteristics, and that I ought to just shut up and listen...then I'm not going to engage.

Out of curiosity, how old are you? I'm actually fascinated by folks in the 30's or younger who seem to think there was no progress made after the Civil Rights movement in the 1960's or that 2020 resembles the 1940's in some way.

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He's just here to virtue signal how much of a righteous ally he is to black people, man. He doesn't actually do anything to help the helpless black people he cares so much about, but he will pat himself on the back and try to fellate his micro penis as he's calling everyone else a racist.

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I pointed out something everyone railed against that can easily be proven true and called no one a racist. Boy, you really nailed that one.

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Blacks are very vocal and angry about their “experiences” within the company. Here are some of what’s been aggrieved-

- I have to bite my tongue and not say what I really think
- I am tired of walking into a meeting and seeing Very few people that look like me
- there needs to be more black leadership
- I work twice as hard as all my peers and get half as far
- my ideas arent accepted as quickly as somebody who is white
- I have to act white to fit in

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This is kind of the point I've been trying to make. The term "racism" has been watered down so much that any perceived slight to a black person is simply called racism and there can be no discussion as to the validity of the claim.

Ones I like are things like "I got into an elevator and there was a white woman in there and she seemed to be uncomfortable and that's racist." Or...maybe as a single woman she was uncomfortable with being alone with a man in a confined space?

Or "I was walking past a car and I heard the automatic door lock, so they did that because I'm black." Or...maybe because they forgot to lock it and then they remembered? Or seeing a person walk by the car jogged their memory that they had forgotten? Maybe the person locking their car WAS black also?

It's akin to screaming about the pain of a paper cut while standing next to a guy who's had both his arms lopped off. There was a time with HORRIFIC racism in the country and actual abuses. To minimize those times and the trials that those people went through should be appalling to the black community. I'm sure it is to reasonable black Americans.

Hell...Tim Cook, CEO of Apple Tweeted this horseshite.

Tim Cook
@tim_cook
We stand with those who refuse to accept the status quo. The WNBA, NBA, and all of those who will not tolerate another Jacob Blake. Another Emmett Till. We must do better — lives depend on it.
10:42 PM · Aug 27, 2020·Twitter for iPad

I'm about the same age as you.

My point is, race relations suck right now, and it's getting worse. "White-privilege" pisses me off to no end. So do all of the threads dismissing the "real" protesters because "only 19 people have been killed by police". Police brutality pisses me off, and is real (but not racial, in my opinion). Riots are so f'ed up - burning peoples property is so f'ed up. We have become so divided on a personal level, that it's going to be impossible to fix. It used to seem that political lines were only drawn in DC, and that common folks like us were the same, we just had different opinions on how things should be paid for. Not anymore. It is hard to have a civil discussion. Obama was divisive, but so is Trump - and that seems to be okay with people now. It's okay for leaders to divide.

I know I ramble, but it's because things are so f'ed up now; it's hard to put a point on it. To go back to race - our experiences growing up were very different. I saw racial slurs hurled many times, on both sides. Race relations seemed to get better over the years, but it's obvious now that it was just boiling under the surface. And I have seen real racism in a corporate environment.

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Just because you haven't experienced racism doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Will you admit black people are very, very racist on the whole?

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Black fragility is a very real thing.

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And that should be allowed to be part of the discussion. A company should be able to freely rebut any claim without worrying about being sued.

I'm curious - in your meetings, are there any rebuttals?

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Disown the proud boys (or other violent far right group) completely or you are full of shite.

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You mean that non-violent group that happens to have non-white members?