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Everything bad in this world started off as a "good idea"

Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8917 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:33 pm
Humans by nature, are going to naturally take the path of least resistance and choose the idea that "feels most good". This is just in our DNA and dates back to Eden.

All of everything bad in our country was once considered a "well intentioned" idea by many

A few examples:
Unions
1965 Immigration Act
NFA and ATF acts
Patriot Act
Roe v Wade
Federal Reserve Act
16th, 17th Ammendments
Woodrow Wilson Administrative State
Social Security
Great Society
Obamacare
Covid lock downs
Masks
mRNA Vaccines

The only hope that a civilization can have to live in freedom and maintain their sovereignty is either with a truly benevolent dictator, or with a completely decentralized Republic with an extreme amount of checks and balances, and with everything being hyper local, a system that will keep the political, legal, and business leaders from colluding. However, if not kept in check, these institutions will eventually figure out how to join forces and succumb to corruption (over time, this is inevitable).

While we always have to be aware and alert of the corrupt leaders who will try to dominate us. It is really, "we the people", who we need to watch out for the most. Because we will dig our own grave much faster than they could ever imagine.
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
2944 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:35 pm to
Throw in covid vaccines to that list
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
Member since Oct 2020
6870 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:36 pm to
Excellent post
Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65411 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:42 pm to
Kansas inventing basketball eventually led to the WNBA

That is a particularly tough one to swallow




This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 9:46 pm
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16194 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:45 pm to
Congrats you just described democrats
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4806 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:11 pm to
I can't go along with Obamacare. Anyone with half a brain knew it was an actuarial death spiral even before it went live on Day 1. Not to mention the John Roberts thing calling it a tax when the bill for it explicitly said it wasn't a tax. There was nothing well intentioned with that thing being shoved down our throats with bribes and Cornhusker kickbacks littered throughout.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29081 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 10:25 pm to
- the internet

- social media


A lot of the things you listed were never good ideas for any rational person.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 12:48 am to
It can be argued that more than half the items on your list were always Trojan Horses intended to expand the state/gain greater control. Therefore, they weren't actually good ideas. They were just framed to appear as good ideas, but were always intended to screw over US citizens.

I think this is a distinction worth understanding. To the extent this is true, the issue becomes less about good ideas, how many people felt good about these ideas, or good intentions (the true intentions weren't good). It's more important to become educated about the recurring pattern of govt/Wall St/MIC abuses that are not in our best interests.

But knowing is only part of the battle. To the extent people know, but continue to do nothing and abuse the system themselves, not much will change. This speaks a little to your point of most taking the path of least resistance.

Ideally, we not only need to make a better effort to understand what's going on, but we need to become more proactive in developing our own morality/ethics/honor regarding how we act, teach values to our kids, & stand up for truth whenever possible. Consider doctors, for example. If more doctors were not only more aware of the issues w/mRNA vaccines, but willing to speak out like Peter McCullough did (at the risk of his reputation & medical license), the items on the bottom of your list wouldn't be as problematic as they are. Many doctors had doubts, but lacked the courage to speak out-- arguably because honor & integrity are not as important in our society as they perhaps once were.

The more all of us become honorable and develop the courage to act and speak out, the less lies will have the ability to easily flourish as they do now. It may seem a daunting task, but each of us here can make a little difference, and small efforts can build into something more meaningful.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8917 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 5:38 am to
quote:

It can be argued that more than half the items on your list were always Trojan Horses intended to expand the state/gain greater control. Therefore, they weren't actually good ideas. They were just framed to appear as good ideas, but were always intended to screw over US citizens.



I agree. I think what I mean by "good idea", is it might sound like a "good idea" to a soft headed ignoramus who is either seeking their own personal immediate gratifaction or some sort of pseudo-religous "do-gooder" atonement for something like race or climate based policies.

Anyone properly educated and aware of how the world really works can easily see through all of these "good ideas" and immediately see the direction they will take us.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 5:41 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42876 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:01 am to

irrefutable statement

the only thing that works is relying on individual effort and not to expect an elected political entity to remain pure to its inception.

once you have fallible human beings in charge of distributing billions of dollars around they will ALWAYs find some way to siphon off a few crumbs that fall to the wayside.

once those 'crumbs' amount to MILLIONs of dollars - but still considered 'noise level' - the whole idea becomes an INDUSTRY which can enrich itself by creating more 'crumbs' - and ever increasing to the 'TRILLIONS' all the 'good' stuff that can be done with just a 'little more money' to spread around.

It is inevitable.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6901 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:15 am to
Proof that we'd all be far better off if the fed's just quit trying to help us.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4806 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:35 am to
quote:

I agree. I think what I mean by "good idea", is it might sound like a "good idea" to a soft headed ignoramus who is either seeking their own personal immediate gratifaction or some sort of pseudo-religous "do-gooder" atonement for something like race or climate based policies.


I see what you mean, good point.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9416 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:36 am to
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67515 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Everything bad in this world started off as a "good idea"

Not everything; see Fed Reserve Act...see Income Tax Act
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8917 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Not everything; see Fed Reserve Act...see Income Tax Act


Somebody convinced somebody it was a good idea. The American people bought it, otherwise there would have been another Civil War.
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