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re: Every time you see me (last words of EG)

Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:08 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:08 am to
quote:

They want to produce the inherent, emotional response derived from the idea that we all immediately jump t when someone says a criminal was "resisting arrest": Trying to run away or physically resist by fighting back.

that is flight from an officer, aggravated flight from an officer, or battery on an officer
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:09 am to
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He was minding his own business by selling black market cigarettes.

Why didn't he just use a phone and meet people instead of setting up shop on the street?

He should have placed his hands behind his back.


Holy shite.

If you really think he was minding his own business and hurting nobody, then why did the cops basically beat his arse and pretty much light the fuse on his own death throes instead of following common sense and just issue him a ticket?

You're an idiot as per usual.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 12:10 am to
And yet, it's what 99% of Americans immediately think of when someone says "resisting arrest".

There is no denying that.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:40 am to
I come down on the side of the law dumbazz.

Why did he resist arrest ? Should cops just let everyone go because they resist ? IDIOTIC.

The guy knows he is in bad shape, the cops don't so he should have cooperated. And I hade the N.Y. price on cigs and think the people should stiff the liberal policies.

His own action led to his death.

Just because the coroner stated the death was a homicide means SHYT/NOTHING. Ever hear of justifiable homicide ?

When people die because of their own disobedience to law officers it is on them.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:55 am to
Good lord, you bat shite crazy.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:39 am to
Technically the cop did nothing illegal. But he should absolutely be sued in civil court.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46628 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:53 am to
quote:

justifiable homicide


You clearly have no idea what this means
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:32 am to
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Posted by S.E.C. Crazy





Shut The frick Up you ignorant frick
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31680 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 5:49 am to
You say that, but i'd bet a billion dollars you don't know whether the question before the GJ was:
1. was the force he used necessary and proportionate to the resistance, or
2. is a cop authorized to use force at the level he used (i.e., NOT designed to kill a guy) if he refuses to be cuffed.

If you don't know the standard that applies, you really can't opine as to whether teh GJ made the right decision. Note, I am not saying you have opined on that, specifically.

I just feel like nobody cares about what the law IS.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:16 am to
quote:

Technically the cop did nothing illegal. But he should absolutely be sued in civil court.


He broke protocol by using the choke hold

Someone died from his actions.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29145 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:22 am to

EG = Private Santiago ... illegally selling cigarettes.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99877 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:27 am to
Sorry. This is a function of the state. Now, can they request the state have a different prosecutor present the case? Yes, they should be able to do that.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31680 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 6:49 am to
That is not the end of the discussion.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:03 am to
quote:

I'm baffled that out of a group of 23 ppl,


Actually, according to reports on a couple of stations, 23 hear the case, only 16 get to vote and it takes 12 to indict.

quote:

12 voted not to go to trial.


Wrong unless you've seen numbers that have not been released yet.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Every time you see me (last words of EG)


Eric Gordon was traded?













































oh sorry wrong board
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:16 am to
Maybe I'm mistaken.

I thought 23 ppl voted.

It takes at least half the very the vote to decide, ie at least 12 to go to trial or not.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54262 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 7:20 am to
quote:

I thought 23 ppl voted.


The reason stated for the 23 was in case some of the jurors had to miss parts of the hearing then there should be enough jurors left that would hear all the testimony. From what I heard yesterday, all 23 jurors heard every word of testimony in this case.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127355 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:02 am to
He had 30 previous arrests. But he was a good boy....
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29145 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:07 am to
quote:

He had 30 previous arrests. But he was a good boy....


96.7% of the time, he must not have resisted arrest.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31680 posts
Posted on 12/4/14 at 8:17 am to
Or he did. What the cop did to him wouldn't kill 99 percent of people his age.
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