re: End game - Immortality

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demonic energy that masquerades as humanism

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Transhumanists

Ponder the trans movement (gender does not matter...)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GROrp3XBRrE

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Prometheus Viral - Peter Weyland at TED 2023 - Guy Pierce, Ridley Scott, Alien Movie (2012) HD

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Weyland meets his end by literally being bludgeoned by the “gods” (with his own tech) while seeking immortality...

The “gods” depicted here also appear to be augmented hybrids....

https://thenightshirt.com/?p=4627

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340302739_The_Passion_of_the_Space_Jockey_Alienated_Sentience_and_Endosymbiosis_in_the_World_of_H_R_Giger

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The Passion of the Space Jockey
Alienated Sentience and Endosymbiosis in the World of H.R. Giger by Eric Wargo

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If there is an origin trauma in Giger’s work, I suggest it is really the trauma of origins in the ancient Gnostic sense: of spirits who find themselves born, painfully, even hopelessly, into the world of matter, with all of matter’s pains, frustrations, and limitations. Many of Giger’s paintings depict humans, semi-humans, or vestiges of humans as parasites, forced to live immobile within a larger, vaguely architectural or technological host, imprisoned for some diabolical and unknowable purpose. Bound women, deformed babies, and monstrous mutants are fettered to each other or to the environment or locked in enforced coupling with machines; the eyes of the figures are often turned up, white, frozen in a gaze that is very much like that of someone drugged or in the midst of orgasm. An impression viewers may have is that Giger is showing us the result of some unspeakably diabolical science experiment, bioengineering as an evil occult ritual.

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Endosymbiosis
While the “fall of spirit into matter” seems like a purely theological or mythic narrative, it has an uncanny reflection in what has become the accepted, fully materialistic account of the origins of complex life forms on Earth. The theory, first proposed by the Russian botanist Konstantin Mereschkowsky in 1926 and then supported by the discoveries of biologist Lynn Margulis (below) in the early 1970s, is now entrenched in biology textbooks: Over two billion years ago, changes in Earth’s environment such as an increasingly oxygen-rich atmosphere led bacteria to adapt in new ways, including by merging and coopting each other, sharing their genes and unique bacterial talents. Through a process called endosymbiosis, independent creatures engulfed each other and “grew together”—most often, perhaps, pointlessly and painfully, but every now and then forming mutually beneficial and stable unions that shaped subsequent life. This was the origin of the first complex, nucleated cells or eukaryotes. All the nonbacterial cells in our bodies have internal organs—the term is organelles—that were originally independently living creatures or parts thereof. For example, the mitochondria that equip our cells to use oxygen for energy were originally freely living aerobic bacteria; they still contain their own DNA distinct from that found in the nucleus, and genetic analysis has found that they are closely related to the modern bacteria that cause typhus. Similarly, the chloroplasts that enable plant cells to convert energy from sunlight were once light-harvesting cyanobacteria floating freely in oceans and fresh water. Still a matter of debate is the origin of another type of organelle, the microtubules that control cell division and movement and that are thought by anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff and physicist Roger Penrose to be the quantum-computing substrate for consciousness. These perfect tubular lattices are incredibly numerous and complexly arrayed in neurons, where they control a number of functions including reshaping the synapse during learning. They also form the cilia and flagella through which many other kinds of cells sense their environment and, in cases like sperm, propel themselves through it. Margulis argued that these structures were originally freely living spirochetes, distant ancestors of syphilis. Because they lack their own DNA, it has been impossible to prove the endosymbiotic origins of microtubules definitively, but it makes a beautiful—and Gigerian—kind of sense that our consciousness, or our spirit, may have originally been bacterial (indeed a venereal disease) and that it was imprisoned in larger hybrid unions because it was highly useful to the collective. The theory of endosymbiosis contrasted sharply with the old-school Darwinian understanding of evolution as driven solely by competition between individuals. The real evolutionary action occurs, Margulis argued, when cells swap and exchange their genetic material in new endosymbiotic unions. Her work could thus be situated within the larger poststructuralist and feminist embrace of hybrids and novel forms of affiliation that captured the academic imagination in the 1970s and 1980s. One could cite Deleuze and Guattari’s “rhizomes” in their 1972 book Anti-Oedipus and Donna Haraway’s 1985 “Manifesto for Cyborgs” as expressions of the same reveling in new biological and technological metaphors of multiplicity, merger, and affiliation that escape preexisting codes of culture and patriarchy. Like Haraway’s cyborgs, Margulis’s story about our merging bacterial ancestors is inspiring and cool … as long as you hold it at a 2-billion-year arm’s reach. Can you imagine the horror of being forced to live out your life immobilized inside another organism? Giger’s art directly captures this horror implicit in endosymbiosis: sentience or spirit imprisoned and exploited. One could suggest that Stanislav Grof’s “birth trauma” doesn’t go back nearly far enough—that the real trauma depicted in Giger’s work is a collective memory of our bacterial ancestors’ engulfment in the primordial soup, the traumatic birth of eukaryotic cells. But Giger’s work carries a postmodern twist that on this two-billion-year-old theme: the engulfing matrix is technological or architectural, not organic. Arguably the 20th Century depth psychologies readily invoked to explicate Giger’s work—Freudian, Jungian, Grofian—look in the wrong direction for trauma and even for origins: They look to the past (of the individual, of the species, or of life itself), when in fact they should be looking to the present or even to the future. Whatever the extent to which Giger was exorcising some trauma in his own or humanity’s collective history, he was also prophesying what may be the next phase in our evolution, a new and traumatic endosymbiotic journey: becoming a mere component in our machines, a kind of “fall into technology.” Giger’s design work for the movie Alien, for which he remains best known, contains his most interesting statement of this dark Gnostic prophecy.

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He can't.....it's a copy & paste.

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Find the original copy and I will self ban forever.

Smartass.

There is no privacy on the net anymore. I'll not name names.

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Trying to usurp God and achieve eternal life is kind of a big deal

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What is life?

The 70 or 80 years we spend on earth? (If you're lucky)

Eternity in Haven or Hell?

Perhaps extending consciousness is not achieving "eternal life" according to God's plan.

I don't claim to know the will of God but I think He (It) would be pleased humanity has progresses as far as we have. We have a long way to go in the "Humanity" department and it's apparent the Bible and Religion isn't enough to convince us to love and respect one another. Maybe technological advances will show us the benefit of that.

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I don’t view our latest progress as progress at all, but regression.

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Time will tell. I don't believe progress is always a straight line up.

I'm sure a lot of people didn't think the civil war was progression at the time.

Perhaps the world (or humanity) needs to see how bad things can actually get before they are inspired to change.

Perhaps this IS real change and even though we don't like it is God's will.

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Stage two is an attempt to upload human awareness and personality digitally into computers. This one is tricky, as human consciousness is still somewhat a mystery.

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Well, it's obvious that the monumental changes that such a trans-human process requires, essentially negates - as opposed to immortalizing - the 'Person' undergoing said transformation. Said Transhuman will no longer be the 'Person' that began the process. Given the virtually unlimited parameters of expansion...sounds like a quick trip into a/the Singularity. And absorption into the infinite Reservoir of Consciousness. I.e., 'death' of said Person.

"Behold, I will take the wise in their own craftiness". Just saying. To each their own. I love being who I am; in fact - like my Grandpa before me - my idea of 'Heaven' would be to come back right in the life scenario wherein I was born in this life, and have a do-over. A do-over with an earlier awareness of the knowledge/wisdom I gained in this life. After my last breath, and in the presence of The Light, this will be my humble request to my Lord Jesus. Soros and those who obviously don't appreciate this life and their 'Self' enough to want more of it (if they did, they wouldn't want to essentially destroy it, with the ludicrous belief that they are extending it) belie their true misery and lack of love.

This said, I think Humanity should explore ALL manifestations of Reality; though personally, I'll watch and evaluate/discern whether some scenarios are contrary and dangerous to my basic First Principle of Love. I won't be 'uploading'...I'll be seeking a "new bottles" for my steadily increasing awareness. "Go in and out and find pasture"...as it were.

Thank you Jesus.

What’s going to happen this summer when the government admits there are aliens and we’ve been in contact with them? Going to be very interesting

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Sadly, human pig hybrids exist today. A true abomination.

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Waiting on manbearpig.

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...and fueled by a demonic energy that masquerades as humanism.

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Great post. All true.

This dream of human immortality brought about by man for man was at the heart of the concluding volume of C.S. Lewis’ Space Trilogy, That Hideous Strength.

Written before the end of WWII in 1943, the characters and the chilling goals and policies they’re pursuing are all based on mostly then current theories and ideas. Those ideas and philosophy were, in the novel, not altogether human.

Lewis saw far and deep almost like a prophet.