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re: Emails show Ben, Candy Carson selected $31,000 dining set
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:06 am to tigerinDC09
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:06 am to tigerinDC09
How can you sit there and accuse a person of color of this? Go back to your Jim crow fantasy times you fricking liberal bigot.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:09 am to The Spleen
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Quit being dense. We knew about the table. Ben Carson's public statement was he had no knowledge of the order being placed and that it was being cancelled. The news here is there are emails showing that he and his wife actually picked out the table, so he lied.
How many people died bc of this table?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:15 am to TigerChief10
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:15 am to The Spleen
muh table. I am just glad the MSM is back to reporting this stuff after an 8 year break 
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:18 am to tigerinDC09
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An August email from a career administration staffer, with the subject line "Secretary's dining room set needed," to Carson's assistant refers to "printouts of the furniture the Secretary and Mrs. Carson picked out."
This reads like, "We put samples in front of them, and this is the one they chose." Nothing in the article would lead anyone to a different conclusion, unless they're just political hacks. The quote above even admits the email is from a career staffer.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:18 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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"Mrs. Carson and the secretary had no awareness that the table was being purchased," he told CNN last month. A HUD spokesman went further at the time, blaming the purchase on an unnamed career staffer. "The secretary did not order a new table. The table was ordered by the career staffers in charge of the building," he said. The fact that you read this and still decided to post this shows how you don't give a shite about truth.
The fact that you still believe they had no awareness of the table being purchased even after seeing emails showing they ordered the table tells me everything I need to know about you really.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:19 am to msutiger
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$31,000 order on a dining set on the American Taxpayers dime is infuriating.
Hold on a second here. Are we sure these aren't sex slaves being bought and coded as a "Dining set".
I mean Obama clearly brought in a large sex slave party when he had the Hotdogs and Pizza parties that cost $60,000.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 8:20 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:20 am to The Spleen
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The news here is there are emails showing that he and his wife actually picked out the table
No there aren't. You will not be able to point to any emails in that article that show he and his wife picked out a $31,000 dining set. All you will be able to show is an email where a staffer says he picked out a table. Doesn't say he had knowledge of the cost, and, by every indication, it looks like he cancelled the order when he found out the cost.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:21 am to tigerinDC09
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The fact that you still believe they had no awareness of the table being purchased even after seeing emails showing they ordered the table tells me everything I need to know about you really.
There are no emails in the linked article in the OP that indicate they themselves specifically ordered anything. This is the definition of fake news. The article states a career staffer attempted to order the table by stating the Carsons picked that one out, and it looks like Carson cancelled the order when he found out the cost. Literally nothing in this article contradicts what was previously stated by Carson.
ETA: Congrats on burying the lead and forcing me to read a CNN article to get the full story, hack.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 8:23 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:22 am to bamarep
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How much shite did Bigfoot order when he urbanized the WH?
FIFY
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:22 am to imjustafatkid
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This reads like, "We put samples in front of them, and this is the one they chose." Nothing in the article would lead anyone to a different conclusion, unless they're just political hacks.
From the Article:
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The career administration staffer sent the quote to Carson's office, specifically Carson's chief of staff and his executive assistant, casting further doubt on the agency's assertion that the purchase was made entirely by career staff.
"Below is the price quote for all of the dining room furniture. I think this is a very reasonable price and the funds are available," the career official wrote.
"We also have a justification for the cost (as you know, the furniture hasn't been changed since 1988) so this should not be a problem," she added.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:23 am to tigerinDC09
So staffers put samples in front of am administrator and his wife and they picked the furniture they liked? I'm all about bringing the mo fricking hammer, even in this case, but to act like this is egregious is ridiculous. These admins are guided through or delegate virtually every non-critical decision they make. The people who picked a 31k dining set as a possible outcome for an agency that needs to disappear need to come forward and state their reasoning.
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 8:24 am
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:23 am to imjustafatkid
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No there aren't. You will not be able to point to any emails in that article that show he and his wife picked out a $31,000 dining set. All you will be able to show is an email where a staffer says he picked out a table. Doesn't say he had knowledge of the cost, and, by every indication, it looks like he cancelled the order when he found out the cost.
I was wondering about this.
Look, I won't be stunned if they ordered a table they knew to be $31K.
But, there's no actual evidence of that. And, it also would be completely unsurprising if they were simply shown several tables to choose from and picked one that turned out to be $31K.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:24 am to ShortyRob
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Look, I won't be stunned if they ordered a table they knew to be $31K.
But, there's no actual evidence of that. And, it also would be completely unsurprising if they were simply shown several tables to choose from and picked one that turned out to be $31K.
Perfectly said
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:24 am to tigerinDC09
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Are they dumb enough to think that the emails wouldn't get out?
I wouldn't put that past them.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:25 am to tigerinDC09
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From the Article:
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The career administration staffer sent the quote to Carson's office, specifically Carson's chief of staff and his executive assistant, casting further doubt on the agency's assertion that the purchase was made entirely by career staff. "Below is the price quote for all of the dining room furniture. I think this is a very reasonable price and the funds are available," the career official wrote. "We also have a justification for the cost (as you know, the furniture hasn't been changed since 1988) so this should not be a problem," she added.
You're going to have to spell out the smoking gun in that quote. So far you've just given me evidence that a career staffer was pissed off she didn't get to purchase some furniture, so she released some emails that would typically only make her look bad but didn't because our media is filled with hacks.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:25 am to tigerinDC09
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I think this is a very reasonable price and the funds are available," the career official wrote.
"We also have a justification for the cost (as you know, the furniture hasn't been changed since 1988) so this should not be a problem," she added.
Not helping your case, dipshit.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:26 am to imjustafatkid
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by every indication, it looks like he cancelled the order when he found out the cost.
Seems if that was the case, he would have said just that when it came to light. He didn't. He simply said he had no knowledge of the order(these emails indicate that not to be the case) and he cancelled the order.
It's really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. But call it what it is.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:27 am to ShortyRob
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I was wondering about this. Look, I won't be stunned if they ordered a table they knew to be $31K. But, there's no actual evidence of that. And, it also would be completely unsurprising if they were simply shown several tables to choose from and picked one that turned out to be $31K.
I agree they probably didn't know the price when they picked it. But the career staff told them the price and said HUD had the funds to cover it.
The biggest issue to me is the cover up. Why lie and say you had no part in the ordering of it? It's an unnecessary lie.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:28 am to The Spleen
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Seems if that was the case, he would have said just that when it came to light. He didn't.
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He simply said he had no knowledge of the order(these emails indicate that not to be the case) and he cancelled the order.
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call it what it is
Will do. It's exactly everything Carson has said from the start.
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