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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:36 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:36 pm to fr33manator
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I completely disagree. There are certain jobs that 100% do not require a physical office for everyone.
Id bet its higher than 6 percent though.
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:38 pm to John Barron
I don't know what your example has to do with working from home.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:38 pm to John Barron
quote:How can that happen if government wasn't involved?!?
We just fired a Respiratory Therapist moonlighting as a Real Estate Agent.
quote:Motherfrickin' SNITCH!!
Nothing was being done about it until I escalated it to the CEO.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:41 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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He can only make recommendations and those won't come for 2 years. With litigation only about 10% of what they recommend will happen. You will get a hiring freeze for 2 years of Trump admin except in areas of Border Patrol and other agencies related to Nat Security.
Vivek says the Chevron ruling by the Supreme Court turned that on its ear.
Means every overreaching "policy" enacted for the past couple of decades is unlawful......and the people that made them. You take away half the workload or better of the 450 agencies, I dont think any court would say you have to keep them employed.
Abide by normal work rules, give them their payout and send them home.
First step would be to move the agency outside of DC that should cull many of them.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:42 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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He can only make recommendations and those won't come for 2 years. With litigation only about 10% of what they recommend will happen. You will get a hiring freeze for 2 years of Trump admin except in areas of Border Patrol and other agencies related to Nat Security.
There is no right to work from home. They can demand federal employees return to the office on day 1 and there is no litigation that can stop that.
Hiring freezes are also hugely effective, as there is lots of natural turnover from people leaving voluntarily or dying.
Also, mass layoffs are also allowed, where individuals are not targeted, as departments are downsized or made obsolete.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, from my understanding double dipping during WFH is a big issue.
Is it really that big of an issue if they're getting the work done?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:42 pm to John Barron
Not a fan of this. It’s a different world. I closed my office in 2014. My business does not rely on walk-in, off-the- street, retail customers. My data is all accessed online and much of it is handled by corporate.
I was paying $3000+ a month for rent and a part-time secretary. Totally unnecessary, especially as we transitioned to an electronic, internet-based business model. It would probably be double that nowadays. If I have a laptop, internet and my phone, I’m in business anywhere in the world. I do have to press the flesh of clients occasionally but I go to them, they don’t come to me.
Note: I am an independent contractor and do not report to anyone as an employee so I understand my situation doesn’t exactly relate to this subject.
I was paying $3000+ a month for rent and a part-time secretary. Totally unnecessary, especially as we transitioned to an electronic, internet-based business model. It would probably be double that nowadays. If I have a laptop, internet and my phone, I’m in business anywhere in the world. I do have to press the flesh of clients occasionally but I go to them, they don’t come to me.
Note: I am an independent contractor and do not report to anyone as an employee so I understand my situation doesn’t exactly relate to this subject.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:43 pm to John Barron
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Trump's right hand man
Huh?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:45 pm to The Baker
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He’s wrong here. Not everyone can afford childcare for the 7 or w/e kids he has.
And all of these kids are below school age? Damn they were busy pumping those kids out huh?!
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:46 pm to John Barron
I wfh and my current company couldn’t hire my talent level given their location.
I think the trade of my talent and being remote is a good trade for both of us.
I think the trade of my talent and being remote is a good trade for both of us.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:46 pm to John Barron
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I can't wait for Elon Musk to take a hammer to WFH in the private and federal workforce.
The stupidity that this portrays is pretty astonishing. I guess this makes sense if your only working experience is blue collar or patient-facing, but there are a ton of white collar jobs that do not need or have an office.
My team provides a service to organizations spread across the country, some team members may help an organization in Los Angeles and Rhode Island on the same day. Where should their office be located?
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:46 pm to John Barron
I don't care where you work, results are what I am looking for.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:47 pm to John Barron
I don’t care how private businesses manage their workforce but no state or federal employee should be able to work from home.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:48 pm to ragincajun03
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47.86 posts a day if started on September 1.
Just wow.
I'm convinced he's a boomer AI bot
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:49 pm to John Barron
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I don't care if it's private or federal, it has to be eliminated
This is between the employer and the employee. There's no reason for government intervention.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:49 pm to LSURussian
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Motherfrickin' SNITCH!!
I hope he was a NAFO troll like you
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:52 pm to John Barron
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Nothing was being done about it until I escalated it to the CEO. Now his arse is gone. I can't stand fraudsters
Oh, I figured it out. You're a BabyTac alter. Carry on.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:52 pm to Powerman
quote:Remember the OP is a "small government" Republican who wants the Federal government involved forcing employers to eliminate work from home.
Incorrect, if you are on the clock running groceries and to the gym. I don't care if it's private or federal, it has to be eliminated
Let the private employers manage this
He posted he got an employee fired where he works by telling the CEO the employee was taking off work under false pretenses.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/18/24 at 2:55 pm to John Barron
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I can't wait for Elon Musk to take a hammer to WFH in the private and federal workforce.
Not the government's business how the private sector wants to run their operations. My wife's company takes their highest producers, the ones that don't need any supervision, and has them work from home to save money on office space. The FedGov doesn't have any right to force them not to.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 3:00 pm to John Barron
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I don't care if it's private or federal, it has to be eliminated
Frick that. The government has no business dictating how private business manages its workforce so long as they comply with all employment laws.
We want smaller government, not an expanded nanny state.
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