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re: Elon Musk Reveals Treasury Has Been Auto-Paying Everyone, Including Terrorist Groups

Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74450 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:30 pm to
I think that's how it works Drac.
People pick and choose and not everyone agrees with the Constitution in it's entirety. Many try to shape it to the current political thoughts of the day. It's why it's the best document ever written since the TC.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14174 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
Keep up man. Listen to Tulsi. She speaks the truth.

I once would object to the foolish claim that the USA was "The Great Satan". Then I watched as the Deep State destroyed Saddam leaving the Middle East smoldering.
Left Billions of dollars of equipment in Afghanistan. We blamed Biden for mismanagement.
Then I learned that we are still sending millions of dollars to Afghanistan to teach the "Peasant Women' how to weave rugs.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4066 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
I know right? I mean, who doesn’t want their taxes going to fund terrorist groups?
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
868 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
It's insane you're defending the madness that's been uncovered.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7274 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:31 pm to
They will suggest it was to fight the REAL terrorist groups WE SHOULD be worried about.

Cut it all off and let them figure it out and since they haven’t for 1000’s of years already I’m guessing they won’t.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125636 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:32 pm to
It’s all that fig has left.

“Muh CoNsuhtushun!”
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50974 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:35 pm to
At the very least, DOGE has exposed some government employees that literally do nothing.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88144 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

I think that's how it works Drac. People pick and choose and not everyone agrees with the Constitution in it's entirety. Many try to shape it to the current political thoughts of the day. It's why it's the best document ever written since the TC.


If Congress appropriates it doesn’t really matter if Elon Musk personally doesn’t agree.

This is basic stuff. Either you believe in the constitution and separation of powers or you dont. Sounds like a fair bit of you don’t.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88144 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:36 pm to
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the808bass


your spiral into stupidity has been noted
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12647 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:36 pm to
So my question is for this $1250 coffee cup, and all the other similar stuff, where does the money really go? stopping the waste is step one, but they need to follow the trail and prosecute the people benefiting from this thievery.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8456 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

GreenJay


Are you ignoring the information? TDS is serious this time


fricking clowns.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125636 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:37 pm to
It’s incredible that you think Treasury’s payments in question are 100% explicitly delegated by Congress.

It’s also incredible that you think Treasury should have no safeguards in place in disbursement of funds.

I mean, not really. You’re just shitting out political arguments.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74450 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:39 pm to
If it's obviously unconstitutional it will be stopped.
Great piece of paper.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14457 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

So my question is for this $1250 coffee cup, and all the other similar stuff, where does the money really go? stopping the waste is step one, but they need to follow the trail and prosecute the people benefiting from this thievery.

Of course. Just like the $500 hammers and toilet seats in the 80s. I'm sure someone's brother-in-law owns the distribution company for the paper cups or something similar.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88144 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

It’s incredible that you think Treasury’s payments in question are 100% explicitly delegated by Congress.


I said quite the opposite actually, go back to the beginning of the thread and try not to skip over things.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19217 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:42 pm to
You seem much more concerned about whether Elon should be doing this than the potential billions of fraud and waste occurring throughout govt. with our tax dollars.

So this being brought to light and having the involved parties defend or fight to continue these payments is bad how exactly?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125636 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:43 pm to
If they are not explicitly directed by Congress, then there’s no Constitutional problem with changing their disbursement.

Even if they are explicitly directed by Congress, you’re getting apoplectic about examining the system of disbursement.

So you’re arguing about what?
Posted by Hookah
Member since Nov 2023
349 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
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it’s not at all clear he has (or could get due to his admitted drug abuse) clearance to view things such as payments to witness protection program participants.


Why do idiots keep parroting this clearance nonsense? Elon Musk’s list of “read-ons” is longer than anyone you know. He could not be in the positions he’s in and domains that he is a part of with his companies without read-on and clearances.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15074 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

their longest-serving, highest-ranked career official


There's a place for him to rest in Gitmo.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88144 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

You seem much more concerned about whether Elon should be doing this than the potential billions of fraud and waste occurring throughout govt. with our tax dollars.


I think the government waste argument is cover for Elon to gain a lot of privileged information he can use against competitors. That’s crony capitalism which i thought this board was against.

Put someone without so many conflicts of interest forward to actually root out waste and abuse in a constitutional way and that’s fine
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