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re: Eastern portion of the republic of Moldova calls for Russia to come to its aid
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:55 pm to TBoy
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:55 pm to TBoy
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Same could be said for a lot of Americans.
You are such a lying shitbag.
Then again, you are a goose-stepping communazi, so lying is acceptable to your ilk.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:56 pm to TBoy
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A lot of Moldovans like Russia and want to be part of it.
Same could be said for a lot of Americans.
I have heard nobody here speak as though they wanted to be part of Russia. That's YOUR skewed perception. Looking critically and objectively at the Ukraine/Russia frick show and explaining ones thoughts that doesn't fit your MSM narrative doesn't imply anyone wanting to move to Russia.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
At least Oceania is still hanging in there...
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:59 pm to lake chuck fan
Transnistria does. I doubt much of Moldova west of the Dniester wants anything to do with Russia.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
“Give us the clean subways with the fabulous light fixtures!”
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:01 pm to Eurocat
In a long historical sense, Moldova has been culturally part of Romania. Moldova was a republic in the Soviet Union. Transnistria is a part of Moldova, a sliver between the river and Ukraine. Transnistria is about one third Russian, one third Moldovan, and one quarter Ukrainian with small extras comprising the remainder.
When the Soviet Union broke up, there was discussion of Moldova becoming part of Romania. A significant number of the people in Transnistria did not want to join Romania and took steps to establish their own government in Transnistria. Moldova remained independent and attempted to assert control over Transnistria through force in a war but failed. A ceasefire was reached.
A previous poster mentioned most Moldovans consider themselves close to Romania. That is mostly true but that has not been my experience regarding Transnistria. I know many Moldovans, some from Transnistria, and they all speak favorably of Russia. A couple actually moved to Moscow. A couple moved here to the States. They all talk of Moldova as being a shithole. I would estimate well over 50%, the Moldovans and Russians in Transnistria, want to remain independent from Moldova.
Russian troops entered Transnistria following the war in the early 1990s in a peacekeeping role (others say occupation) and the region has remained relatively stable and peaceful in that time. Tensions are escalating as Moldova seeks to reassert influence within the region and there have been mentions of Ukraine invading and taking over the land as well.
I would like to see this place remain stable and free from war and I would like for the people living there to determine their own future. Just let them be.
When the Soviet Union broke up, there was discussion of Moldova becoming part of Romania. A significant number of the people in Transnistria did not want to join Romania and took steps to establish their own government in Transnistria. Moldova remained independent and attempted to assert control over Transnistria through force in a war but failed. A ceasefire was reached.
A previous poster mentioned most Moldovans consider themselves close to Romania. That is mostly true but that has not been my experience regarding Transnistria. I know many Moldovans, some from Transnistria, and they all speak favorably of Russia. A couple actually moved to Moscow. A couple moved here to the States. They all talk of Moldova as being a shithole. I would estimate well over 50%, the Moldovans and Russians in Transnistria, want to remain independent from Moldova.
Russian troops entered Transnistria following the war in the early 1990s in a peacekeeping role (others say occupation) and the region has remained relatively stable and peaceful in that time. Tensions are escalating as Moldova seeks to reassert influence within the region and there have been mentions of Ukraine invading and taking over the land as well.
I would like to see this place remain stable and free from war and I would like for the people living there to determine their own future. Just let them be.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:03 pm to LuckyTiger
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Just let them be.
I don't think Russia has any desire for this, especially if it can find an area with "ethnic Russians" to go claim they're saving.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think Russia has any desire for this, especially if it can find an area with "ethnic Russians" to go claim they're saving.
Well, on the previous page you can see a poster calling for Transnistria to be ethnically cleansed of Russians so that goes both ways, friend.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:07 pm to Buckeye Backer
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400,000+ people live there, along with 1,500 Russ soldiers stationed there. The Moldovan govt recently passed new taxes and restrictions against this region. This has the potential to become HOT real quick.
And their fate still makes absolutely no difference to the US...
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:09 pm to LuckyTiger
Russia clearly sees Transnistria as an extension of its 'Novorossiya' claims along Ukraine's Black Sea coast if I recall correctly. Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, etc.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:10 pm to Indefatigable
They’re the same people. It makes sense.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:17 pm to kingbob
I think it’s a tail wag dog situation, and it goes back to General Lebeds unilateral decision to use the Soviet 14th Army to end the conflict. Russia became the proud owner of a dependency.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Let them fight and negotiate.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:23 pm to Lima Whiskey
Isn't Transnistria the break-away region that stayed communist after the fall of the USSR? Last I read about them, it's like a little slice of the cold war that never thawed out.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:25 pm to Eurocat
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Just like Spain has done forever to the Basques, the Irish to Northern Ireland, The Chinese to dozens of minorities, this is nothing new. States cannot simply allow themselves to break up into micronations unless an orderly process is followed. This is far from orderly, it's a Russian plot.
I’ll put you down as being opposed to self-determination
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:28 pm to BayouBengal51
Yes,
From Wikipedia
From Wikipedia
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General Major Alexander Lebed arrived at the 14th Army headquarters on 23 June with standing orders to stop the ongoing conflict with any available means, inspect the army, prevent the theft of armaments from its depots and ensure the unimpeded evacuation of armaments and Army personnel from Moldovan and through Ukrainian territory. After briefly assessing the situation, he assumed command of the army, relieving Netkachev, and ordered his troops to enter the conflict directly. On 3 July at 03:00, a massive artillery strike originating from the 14th Army formations stationed on left bank of the Dniester obliterated the Moldovan force concentrated in Hîrbova? forest, near Bender, effectively ending the military phase of the conflict.[14][16] According to at least one Moldovan source, 112 Moldovan soldiers were killed by the bombardment.[17]
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:31 pm to Eurocat
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States cannot simply allow themselves to break up into micronations unless an orderly process is followed.
Why specifically?
Are you opposed to self determination? If so on what grounds?
Europe is constituted of many small independent nations and each are perfectly capable of self rule.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:33 pm to tide06
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Europe is constituted of many small independent nations and each are perfectly capable of self rule.
Let's not act like there isn't a reasonable line between self-determination and the interest of maintaining a nation-state.
Half the countries in Europe have "separatist" regions or border disputes.
Transistria and Moldova specifically would probably be better off going their separate ways. But lets not get crazy.
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:00 pm to idlewatcher
All he has to do is enter Ukraine. He'll be kidnapped to the front line in no time. Not many military aged men that are expendable left in Ukraine
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