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re: Eastern portion of the republic of Moldova calls for Russia to come to its aid

Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35189 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Same could be said for a lot of Americans.


You are such a lying shitbag.

Then again, you are a goose-stepping communazi, so lying is acceptable to your ilk.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9501 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:56 pm to
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A lot of Moldovans like Russia and want to be part of it.

Same could be said for a lot of Americans.


I have heard nobody here speak as though they wanted to be part of Russia. That's YOUR skewed perception. Looking critically and objectively at the Ukraine/Russia frick show and explaining ones thoughts that doesn't fit your MSM narrative doesn't imply anyone wanting to move to Russia.
Posted by SoggyBottomBaw
Live Free Or Die
Member since Nov 2022
462 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:57 pm to
At least Oceania is still hanging in there...
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67296 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:59 pm to
Transnistria does. I doubt much of Moldova west of the Dniester wants anything to do with Russia.
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5699 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:01 pm to
“Give us the clean subways with the fabulous light fixtures!”
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
45615 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:01 pm to
In a long historical sense, Moldova has been culturally part of Romania. Moldova was a republic in the Soviet Union. Transnistria is a part of Moldova, a sliver between the river and Ukraine. Transnistria is about one third Russian, one third Moldovan, and one quarter Ukrainian with small extras comprising the remainder.

When the Soviet Union broke up, there was discussion of Moldova becoming part of Romania. A significant number of the people in Transnistria did not want to join Romania and took steps to establish their own government in Transnistria. Moldova remained independent and attempted to assert control over Transnistria through force in a war but failed. A ceasefire was reached.

A previous poster mentioned most Moldovans consider themselves close to Romania. That is mostly true but that has not been my experience regarding Transnistria. I know many Moldovans, some from Transnistria, and they all speak favorably of Russia. A couple actually moved to Moscow. A couple moved here to the States. They all talk of Moldova as being a shithole. I would estimate well over 50%, the Moldovans and Russians in Transnistria, want to remain independent from Moldova.

Russian troops entered Transnistria following the war in the early 1990s in a peacekeeping role (others say occupation) and the region has remained relatively stable and peaceful in that time. Tensions are escalating as Moldova seeks to reassert influence within the region and there have been mentions of Ukraine invading and taking over the land as well.

I would like to see this place remain stable and free from war and I would like for the people living there to determine their own future. Just let them be.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:03 pm to
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Just let them be.


I don't think Russia has any desire for this, especially if it can find an area with "ethnic Russians" to go claim they're saving.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45615 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:07 pm to
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I don't think Russia has any desire for this, especially if it can find an area with "ethnic Russians" to go claim they're saving.

Well, on the previous page you can see a poster calling for Transnistria to be ethnically cleansed of Russians so that goes both ways, friend.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27407 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:07 pm to
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400,000+ people live there, along with 1,500 Russ soldiers stationed there. The Moldovan govt recently passed new taxes and restrictions against this region. This has the potential to become HOT real quick.


And their fate still makes absolutely no difference to the US...
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27421 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:09 pm to
Russia clearly sees Transnistria as an extension of its 'Novorossiya' claims along Ukraine's Black Sea coast if I recall correctly. Odessa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, etc.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:10 pm to
They’re the same people. It makes sense.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:17 pm to
I think it’s a tail wag dog situation, and it goes back to General Lebeds unilateral decision to use the Soviet 14th Army to end the conflict. Russia became the proud owner of a dependency.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:18 pm to
Let them fight and negotiate.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm to
Yes
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6589 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:23 pm to
Isn't Transnistria the break-away region that stayed communist after the fall of the USSR? Last I read about them, it's like a little slice of the cold war that never thawed out.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13320 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Just like Spain has done forever to the Basques, the Irish to Northern Ireland, The Chinese to dozens of minorities, this is nothing new. States cannot simply allow themselves to break up into micronations unless an orderly process is followed. This is far from orderly, it's a Russian plot.


I’ll put you down as being opposed to self-determination
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19577 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:28 pm to
Yes,

From Wikipedia

quote:

General Major Alexander Lebed arrived at the 14th Army headquarters on 23 June with standing orders to stop the ongoing conflict with any available means, inspect the army, prevent the theft of armaments from its depots and ensure the unimpeded evacuation of armaments and Army personnel from Moldovan and through Ukrainian territory. After briefly assessing the situation, he assumed command of the army, relieving Netkachev, and ordered his troops to enter the conflict directly. On 3 July at 03:00, a massive artillery strike originating from the 14th Army formations stationed on left bank of the Dniester obliterated the Moldovan force concentrated in Hîrbova? forest, near Bender, effectively ending the military phase of the conflict.[14][16] According to at least one Moldovan source, 112 Moldovan soldiers were killed by the bombardment.[17]
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11353 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:31 pm to
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States cannot simply allow themselves to break up into micronations unless an orderly process is followed.

Why specifically?

Are you opposed to self determination? If so on what grounds?

Europe is constituted of many small independent nations and each are perfectly capable of self rule.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27421 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Europe is constituted of many small independent nations and each are perfectly capable of self rule.


Let's not act like there isn't a reasonable line between self-determination and the interest of maintaining a nation-state.

Half the countries in Europe have "separatist" regions or border disputes.

Transistria and Moldova specifically would probably be better off going their separate ways. But lets not get crazy.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2518 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:00 pm to
All he has to do is enter Ukraine. He'll be kidnapped to the front line in no time. Not many military aged men that are expendable left in Ukraine
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